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clippyrip said:
Good job, you avoided the question.
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In the attempt to remain civil on the brink of OUR company's 1st AE, the 330 and 765 are different airplanes with different missions. First of all, they're not even built by the same manufacturer. You asked if the 765 is on par with the 330, it's similar to asking if the 737 is on par with A320. I know this answer will not suffice, as you probably want someone from F-DAL to stir the pot a little.

So, Merry X'mas to you and your family, hope you'll be happy with the upcoming rounds of AE in the coming year(s).
 
ACL65PILOT said:
Yes, according to our union and the company they are.
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Looks like the 3 most important people in our negotiations thought so---the 3 arbitrators.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
clippyrip said:
An interesting note is the A330 is not fenced and will soon see some DAL bubbas onboard. I'm curious to see how long it takes them to squawk that there are more seats on it than the 767-400 and they want a pay increase. What was good for the goose in SLI is about to bite the goose post SOC. Good job boys, you screwed yourself.
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Let it go........or it will eat you up inside.
 
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767/757 said:
Let it go........or it will eat you up inside.
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+1....Clippyrip is gonna be one of those guys still upset 20 years from now. As a Fnwa, I have not heard anyone I fly with get worked up about this issue in many months. Most have accepted the process and moved on. I suggest clippy do the same. Besides, with his (lack of) seniority he won't even get MD'd off the DC-9 because there will be too many VD's ahead of him. I'm guessing that's his real issue, stuck commuting to reserve in MEM can't be fun.
 
General Lee said:
Looks like the 3 most important people in our negotiations thought so---the 3 arbitrators.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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I couldn't agree more, your negotiators did a fantastic job of convincing the arbitrators that the 330 should have the same pay scale. Which brings us back to the original point.
 
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MJ42 said:
+1....Clippyrip is gonna be one of those guys still upset 20 years from now. As a Fnwa, I have not heard anyone I fly with get worked up about this issue in many months. Most have accepted the process and moved on. I suggest clippy do the same. Besides, with his (lack of) seniority he won't even get MD'd off the DC-9 because there will be too many VD's ahead of him. I'm guessing that's his real issue, stuck commuting to reserve in MEM can't be fun.
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Nice try smarty but I don't commute. Secondly, I'm about to enjoy a displacement into a bigger AC. No seat lock.
 
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clippyrip said:
Nice try smarty but I don't commute
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Oh, sorry....besides the commuting part of my post the rest is pretty accurate, right? Being that you got displaced off the 200 and are now on the 9 in MEM I'd bet my presumption on target. Seat lock makes no difference for an MD. Doubt you can hold anything bigger unless you are MD'd, which again, you probably won't be displaced(because of VD's, not because you fall on the bottom of the 9 list).
 
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MJ42 said:
Oh, sorry....besides the commuting part of my post the rest is pretty accurate, right? Being that you got displaced off the 200 and are now on the 9 in MEM I'd bet my presumption on target. Seat lock makes no difference for an MD. Doubt you can hold anything bigger unless you are MD'd, which again, you probably won't be displaced(because of VD's, not because you fall on the bottom of the 9 list).
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Going back and reading my previous posts does not make you Nostradamus. But, yes I will be displaced to a bigger AC. I am not on the bottom, I choose reserve because I like to get paid to be at home chatting with fine folks like yourself. I also picked MEM because I wanted to live in the South, not forced here because I'm on the bottom. I'm nowhere near as junior as you think.

FYI, I was on the 200 because I wanted it, not because I got stuck with it. Fishing in AK in the summer and skiing in the winter while on reserve was the best. On top of that, now I am enjoying displacement pay.
 
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MJ42 said:
Doubt you can hold anything bigger unless you are MD'd, which again, you probably won't be displaced(because of VD's, not because you fall on the bottom of the 9 list).
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MEM is about to become relatively senior in all categories. Many of the pilots displacing out of ATL would rather MEM than DTW or MSP. On top of that, there are a bunch of Delta bubbas that live near here and were commuting to ATL. Now they get to stay at home instead of commute. Like you said, VDs come before MDs.


All that adds up to an enjoyable MD for yours truly.
 
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clippyrip said:
Going back and reading my previous posts does not make you Nostradamus. But, yes I will be displaced to a bigger AC. I am not on the bottom, I choose reserve because I like to get paid to be at home chatting with fine folks like yourself. I also picked MEM because I wanted to live in the South, not forced here because I'm on the bottom. I'm nowhere near as junior as you think.

FYI, I was on the 200 because I wanted it, not because I got stuck with it. Fishing in AK in the summer and skiing in the winter while on reserve was the best. On top of that, now I am enjoying displacement pay.
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Never claimed to be prophetic, however you don't make sense. What "bigger" aircraft do you think you can hold in MEM?...answer=NONE. Guess you'll be commuting to Reserve in ATL on that bigger aircraft, huh?(if you can hold ATL). Or, you really like to move a lot...ANC, MEM, ATL...why don't you just quit complaining about a SLI that YOU CAN NOT CHANGE!
 
clippyrip said:
MEM is about to become relatively senior in all categories. Many of the pilots displacing out of ATL would rather MEM than DTW or MSP. On top of that, there are a bunch of Delta bubbas that live near here and were commuting to ATL. Now they get to stay at home instead of commute. Like you said, VDs come before MDs.


All that adds up to an enjoyable MD for yours truly.
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Don't be so sure about that, I think most ATL MD's will follow their aircraft to NYC(765) than fly the 9 out of MEM.
 
MJ42 said:
Never claimed to be prophetic, however you don't make sense. What "bigger" aircraft do you think you can hold in MEM?...answer=NONE. Guess you'll be commuting to Reserve in ATL on that bigger aircraft, huh?(if you can hold ATL). Or, you really like to move a lot...ANC, MEM, ATL...why don't you just quit complaining about a SLI that YOU CAN NOT CHANGE!
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Don't get frustrated because you don't understand I will explain. I don't plan on staying in MEM. I will get the MD and move my dog and pony show to a bigger AC in a different town. If I'm not in ANC then I am not home and I don't care where I go. Yes, I do enjoy moving a lot.

And, yes I will be on reserve but I love reserve, I thought I explained that to you. I get paid to sit around and scratch my jewels. I will forever fly reserve and that is why I move, to enjoy reserve.

FYI, I did not move to ANC, that was where I was born and raised. Hence why I was up there and not because I was junior.
 
clippyrip said:
Don't get frustrated because you don't understand I will explain. I don't plan on staying in MEM. I will get the MD and move my dog and pony show to a bigger AC in a different town. If I'm not in ANC then I am not home and I don't care where I go. Yes, I do enjoy moving a lot.

And, yes I will be on reserve but I love reserve, I thought I explained that to you. I get paid to sit around and scratch my jewels. I will forever fly reserve and that is why I move, to enjoy reserve.

FYI, I did not move to ANC, that was where I was born and raised. Hence why I was up there and not because I was junior.
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Um, ok. Very naive to think just cause you're junior you WILL get displaced. Nobody knows what will happen with this AE, especially to the junior DC-9 FO's. BTW, I'm not frustrated at all. However, based off your recent posts still being upset about the SLI, seems you need more of a stress release then just scratching your jewels:puke:
 
MJ42 said:
Um, ok. Very naive to think just cause you're junior you WILL get displaced. Nobody knows what will happen with this AE, especially to the junior DC-9 FO's. BTW, I'm not frustrated at all. However, based off your recent posts still being upset about the SLI, seems you need more of a stress release then just scratching your jewels:puke:
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Scratching my jewels is very relaxing. I am not upset about the SLI, I am one who believes that 1+1=3. I just think it was short sighted to devalue the 330.
 
Going2Baja said:
Are the Seniority #'s at the top based on who currently hold the position?
Are there bumping rights?
Are these the only positions that are open?
How long is the seat lock?
Are base swaps easy in the same equipment?
Are there separate positions for reserve?

Baja.
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Why would u care? I thought u were elated to be in Alaska... Why come back to NWA/DAL?
 
clippyrip said:
Scratching my jewels is very relaxing. I am not upset about the SLI, I am one who believes that 1+1=3. I just think it was short sighted to devalue the 330.
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Ok then, what can you do about it now? Oh yeah, NOTHING...so quit complaining.

Also, you're so sure you'll be displaced to a bigger aircraft. Ever think you may get MD'd to DTW DC9 b?(if you get MD'd). Wouldn't that be funny???
 
MJ42 said:
Also, you're so sure you'll be displaced to a bigger aircraft. Ever think you may get MD'd to DTW DC9 b?(if you get MD'd). Wouldn't that be funny???
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That would be great. Got a bunch of classmates up there and I love to fish. Plus, I might buy a few 20k houses and start a crash pad business. Would you like me to save you a bunk if you get DTW? I have a special rate for angry guys who wish ill will on others.
 
clippyrip said:
That would be great. Got a bunch of classmates up there and I love to fish. Plus, I might buy a few 20k houses and start a crash pad business. Would you like me to save you a bunk if you get DTW? I have a special rate for angry guys who wish ill will on others.
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Wow, you described yourself very well! But, on the off chance you're referring to me, how is making a comment about you possibly being displaced to DTW "ill will". After all, seems you'd be ok with that MD if you were awarded it. As you said earlier, you don't care where you go if it's not ANC.

No thanks on the crash pad, I'm based in DTW already and have bids, MD's and VD's in for a DAL base. If I don't get it, I'm content with the good commutable schedules I get now.

Also, 20k is a bit much around the airport. Hope it works out well for you, however there are many guys in DTW who did the same thing and can't keep their crash pad filled. Guess there's more supply than demand for DTW crash pads.
 
MJ42 said:
Wow, you described yourself very well! But, on the off chance you're referring to me, how is making a comment about you possibly being displaced to DTW "ill will". After all, seems you'd be ok with that MD if you were awarded it. As you said earlier, you don't care where you go if it's not ANC.

No thanks on the crash pad, I'm based in DTW already and have bids, MD's and VD's in for a DAL base. If I don't get it, I'm content with the good commutable schedules I get now.

Also, 20k is a bit much around the airport. Hope it works out well for you, however there are many guys in DTW who did the same thing and can't keep their crash pad filled. Guess there's more supply than demand for DTW crash pads.
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You remind me of my sister when she was about 8, always had to get the last word in. For that, I congratulate you sir...you win the battle of attrition.
 
clippyrip said:
You remind me of my sister when she was about 8, always had to get the last word in. For that, I congratulate you sir...you win the battle of attrition.
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Haha, now that's funny coming from a guy going on and on and on about the 330. Everyone got over those things months ago, besides, THERE IS NOTHING YOU (or any other DAL pilot) can do about it.
 

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