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[EMBpilot]

What would be a guess on this bid as to total cost for Training ect.

I heard Delta does so much contract training that is it free for them to train their own pilots.
Is it true?

Same with MX. Contract MX covers their own?

 

[Jet Wash]

ATL taking it in shorts. Lots of 76 CA & FO displacements with no replacement flying. Unless you are senior in your category in ATL you are about to become junior, or worse, bumped out of ATL altogether. Pretty disheartening after 9 years at D that I will be junior on the maddog in ATL. On the plus side - I have a job.

 

[EMBpilot]

If there is hiring would a 777 DTW be possible for a newhire???

Absolutely! But you have to loose 70 pounds. Delta doesn't hire fatties.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

How does the 777 flying work with the fences in place? Will it mean that an original Delta pilot will be forced to fly out of DTW until the fences expire and let a Delta North pilot fly it?

 

[i fly boxes]

What would be a guess on this bid as to total cost for Training ect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk4n0SvG0-Y&feature=related

 

[DTW320]

How does the 777 flying work with the fences in place? Will it mean that an original Delta pilot will be forced to fly out of DTW until the fences expire and let a Delta North pilot fly it?

Depends on what you mean by "forced". If NYC based 777 pilots want to stay on the airplane they will have to either displace to ATL or DTW as their seniority allows or not. Otherwise, they can displace to anything system wide where someone is junior to them in the category, except 747-400 which is fenced for DAL-N .

Technically, if there were insufficient DAL-S bidders for the new DTW 777 positions it could be awarded to a DAL-N pilot regardless of the fence. I don't see that happening.

 

[Superpilot92]

How does the 777 flying work with the fences in place? Will it mean that an original Delta pilot will be forced to fly out of DTW until the fences expire and let a Delta North pilot fly it?

IF and thats a big IF there arent sufficient bidders for a fenced position than the other side would be able to bid for the unfilled positions.

I dont see this happening though because I'm sure enough people will bid it.

 

[Monster Buck]

make sure that you have your vd's md' in order because with about 5000 total movements everthing that isn't fenced will probably have some openings.

 

[Superpilot92]

Anyone know what the pay credit is for a training now? We DAL-N guys used to get 80 hours? Whats the DAL-S way?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Anyone know what the pay credit is for a training now? We DAL-N guys used to get 80 hours? Whats the DAL-S way?

ALV. When you finish your checkride and are awaiting OE, you are free to bid "high credit" and get the upper limit of the LCW while you wait 6 months for OE on the ER. :beer:

 

[Superpilot92]

ALV. When you finish your checkride and are awaiting OE, you are free to bid "high credit" and get the upper limit of the LCW while you wait 6 months for OE on the ER. :beer:

but what do you get while going through training? thanks for the info

 

[GogglesPisano]

but what do you get while going through training? thanks for the info

I believe you get the ALV for whatever seat you are in, pro-rated for any flying you have already done for the bid period. After your "conversion date" you get your new payrate and ALV for the aircraft you are training in. The conversion date may or not occur during training.

 

[Lucky Strike]

If I'm involuntarily displaced and have to retrain on another aircraft, what's the freeze?....2yrs???

 

[Superpilot92]

I believe you get the ALV for whatever seat you are in, pro-rated for any flying you have already done for the bid period. After your "conversion date" you get your new payrate and ALV for the aircraft you are training in. The conversion date may or not occur during training.

thanks

 

[GogglesPisano]

If I'm involuntarily displaced and have to retrain on another aircraft, what's the freeze?....2yrs???

No freeze for an MD.

 

[FATboy]

atl capt -142
atl fo -136

cvg capt +12
cvg fo +11

dtw capt +25
dtw fo -32

lax capt +6
lax fo +4

mem fo +2

msp capt +53
msp fo +88

nyc capt +57
nyc fo +118

slc capt +13
slc fo +19

Open: 98

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Yep more positions that pilots, as suspected. I bet you see more of that in the future

 

[1st Rate]

It's got to be a good thing. Good for DAL!

 

[twobits]

The way i read it, we are overstaffed currently, but in summer we will temporarily be understaffed due to the large training volume, etc... If you look at the December number, 1800 pilots fat - correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

The way i read it, we are overstaffed currently, but in summer we will temporarily be understaffed due to the large training volume, etc... If you look at the December number, 1800 pilots fat - correct me if I'm wrong.

Depends on which you see... required staffing and projected staffing are 2 different things on the 22WD reports....


The "required" (first chart) is simply a base formula. The airline could not function at that staffing level. The second chart is a realistic one.

I had the same "holy crap!" moment when I first saw them a few AE's ago before it was explained to me.