Dal ae

[dtfl]

ATL taking it in shorts. Lots of 76 CA & FO displacements with no replacement flying. Unless you are senior in your category in ATL you are about to become junior, or worse, bumped out of ATL altogether. Pretty disheartening after 9 years at D that I will be junior on the maddog in ATL. On the plus side - I have a job.

Where do you sit on it? Im about the 9 year point...hope I still SIT in ATL on it

 

[ExAF]

Short Bus

hopefully my recall rights get me back on the mini-bus, we'll see

That's SHORT BUS for you!:laugh:

 

[Superpilot92]

That's SHORT BUS for you!:laugh:

you must have flown with me :blush:

 

[Sinca3]

Do you think the 330 and 764 are on par with each other?

Yes, why wouldn't they be? Similar a/c for similar missions.....
and yeah, the 320 and 737 are similar or "on par" with each other also.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Similar but not the same as they do not pay the same in the PWA.

 

[Sinca3]

Similar but not the same as they do not pay the same in the PWA.

Right, but the point I'm trying to make is that they are similar and therefore the same pay rate is justified. Along those lines I could see bringing the 73 and baby bus to the same pay rate....the higher of the two of course!!

 

[FmrFreightDog]

nevermind....

 

[Fly4hire]

How junior do you think NYC M88A will go? Not a lot of prefs with only a few openings, but the unknown is how many will down bid in ATL and then have contingent displacements into those NYC M88A's?

Disclaimer: I hope it goes senior to me so I can keep pay protection in DTW and stay a non-commuter from my recent MD (low 9K #) MSP might be a bigger problem.....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Fly, I have it bid on an MD and I am getting MDed so I am sure you are safe!

 

[michael707767]

How junior do you think NYC M88A will go? Not a lot of prefs with only a few openings, but the unknown is how many will down bid in ATL and then have contingent displacements into those NYC M88A's?.

I think NYC M88A will actually go more senior on this bid. I suspect a lot of guys getting displaced out of ATL will go to NYC to stay on the aircraft.

 

[dtfl]

I think NYC M88A will actually go more senior on this bid. I suspect a lot of guys getting displaced out of ATL will go to NYC to stay on the aircraft.

Im wondering how senior the 88B will be now!!! Depends on how many 765 guys follow the plane I guess.
There are AEs, but the MDs get run first right? Meaning - someone coming into a category can't bump you out of it via an AE..only an MD right?

 

[michael707767]

Im wondering how senior the 88B will be now!!! Depends on how many 765 guys follow the plane I guess.
There are AEs, but the MDs get run first right? Meaning - someone coming into a category can't bump you out of it via an AE..only an MD right?

True. For an existing category, MDs have priority. From the contract "A pilot’s bid preference for an AE will not be awarded if the award, together with any

VD/MD(s) for the same category, would create a surplus that would cause a displacement in thecategory. In other words, a pilot’s VD or MD bid into a category will supersede a more senior pilot’s AE bid to that category."​

Forr a new category, IE the 765 in NYC, anything goes. I expect to see a lot of FNWA pilots bidding the 765 in NYC.

 

[filejw]

True. For an existing category, MDs have priority. From the contract "A pilot’s bid preference for an AE will not be awarded if the award, together with any

VD/MD(s) for the same category, would create a surplus that would cause a displacement in thecategory. In other words, a pilot’s VD or MD bid into a category will supersede a more senior pilot’s AE bid to that category."​

Forr a new category, IE the 765 in NYC, anything goes. I expect to see a lot of FNWA pilots bidding the 765 in NYC.

True I know of at least 2 744 A's thinking about NYC 765..

 

[dtfl]

True. For an existing category, MDs have priority. From the contract "A pilot’s bid preference for an AE will not be awarded if the award, together with any

VD/MD(s) for the same category, would create a surplus that would cause a displacement in thecategory. In other words, a pilot’s VD or MD bid into a category will supersede a more senior pilot’s AE bid to that category."​

Forr a new category, IE the 765 in NYC, anything goes. I expect to see a lot of FNWA pilots bidding the 765 in NYC.

Mkay. Thanks.

Everyone go chase the 765. You don't want the crap reroutes and short layovers on the ATL 88B!!

 

[another cfii]

Mkay. Thanks.

Everyone go chase the 765. You don't want the crap reroutes and short layovers on the ATL 88B!!

Good luck to you, hope you'll stay where you want to stay. I hope it's true for most of us. Though the last few rounds of displacements prove that if you're junior in any category, better get ready to commute, or commute to a less desirable base than what you're holding now. After the results are posted, lots of guys are gonna wonder, "What happened"?? How come I get bumped out of my base? There's a lot of collateral damage in such a big bid as this. Even if guys in a shrinking category won't bump you, arbitrary more senior guys w/ VD can roam freely around the system can change the landscape significantly.