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Crew Fisticuffs!

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John Pennekamp said:
While I don't condone on-duty fisticuffs, there's nothing wrong with a little mono a mono once in a while. [=quote]

Wouldn't that be monkey to monkey? Its been a while since spanish class, but I think that's what it is. Although maybe this describes the situation better.
 
talespin said:
Another funny story! You F9 guys might remember this one. Capt dating F/A, F/A dumps Capt for another Capt. Capt #1 tells Capt #2 that is my girlfriend and don't appreciate what your doing. Capt #2 tells Capt #1 thanks for short stroken her all this time. Fight breaks out between to gates on the ramp with pax watching from airplane and terminal. Capt's 1 and 2 became F/O's for awhile.

Did the FA take the paycut or did she move to Capt#3?
 
~~~^~~~ said:
I wasn't going to weigh in on this thread because I thought it was kind of dumb, but if 4,000 page views, more posts than the Comair investigation threads and professions of group apologies are in the offering, apparently users of the Flight Info Board are interested in this story.

The only version of the story we have is from the coffee tosser. Now throwing coffee all over someone's uniform is a pretty low move. Why are you guys encouraging that sort of behavior?

Maybe the other guy was a commuter, on his way to a job interview, or maybe things did not unfold exactly as the coffee tosser exaplained it to his Chief Pilot. This is more the sort of thing that should be dealt with by ALPA professional standards.

I think all of us hold vans for other crews, but once a great while a guy doesn't wake up, crew scheduling moves things around, or someone is ill. Sounds like some folks had a rough morning... but why do we on this board ridicule a pilot for wanting to be on time? Is it not "cool?"

I thought the purpose of this board was first to help folks with employment questions, then as jobs became less plentiful the board morphed into a good source for industry news and opinion. Now it seems to be headed towards Jerry Springer land. Why?

From what I understand, the ASA crew takes a van just minutes prior to show time, a 5:20 van. They could easily take the 5:00 van, but dedcide the extra 20 minutes of sleep is more important. The ASA pilot starts freaking out because the van isn't leaving EXACTLY on time and starts calling the Mesaba crew unprofessional and states "no wonder you guys are in bankruptcy!" He berates the Mesaba crew all the way to the airport. The Mesaba FO moves to the back of the van because this tool won't shut up!

They finally get to the airport...the ASA dude gets his bag and on his way to the terminal, shoulders the Mesaba FO! The Mesaba FO rightfully gets pissed and throws his coffee. The ASA guys jumps on the mesaba guy and ASA is in a headlock getting his azz kicked before he can say BOO!

The cop breaks it up and the ASA guy still wants a piece (while the cop has him restrained - TOUGH GUY!). He demands to know the Mesaba pilots name and empy #, which he gets and the Mesaba guy says,"What, are you going to tell your Daddy?????!!!!!!!"

The Mesaba guy reports everything to the chief. The ASA chief heard nothing uintil he was contacted by the Mesaba chief. I guess he's in trouble???
 
Spinn555 said:
And we here at PODUNK Airlines want to show our support for you guys at ASA, for showing your support to Mesaba guys during this situation, who showed their support, I'm sure, for all the guys at INDY AIR, show showed their support for everyone at Chicago Express (Windy City), and I'm sure that there was support from Chicago Express to everyone at Corporate Airlines during their times of struggle.

There, one guy can show his companies support (speaking for a few thousand people), towards tens of thousands of people all within one paragraph! HA!

Oh, and how could I forget...the ever-so-popular...

You guys are welcome in my jumpseat anytime!

*gag*

Well, it's damm well time someone said something nice about the corpex crews!!! I think that they win the "My management sucks the worst" trophy!

CC Air and Corpex would normally hold the van for each other in Charleston...there was some Old Fatazzz TSA CA that would try to leave without us if he managed to get in on time-usually they were so late that it wasn't a problem...I don't think that he tipped the van driver though, cause the driver would wait for us!
 
SiuDude said:
This thread is worthless without names.....and pictures.

are you kidding??? this thread had some of the funniest posts I have seen on here in a long time.
 
I'll have to agree, that this is one of the more entertaining threads in recent history! It's a nice break from all of the doom and gloom. So have there been any disciplinary actions because of all this? Hopefully no one gets canned.
 
belchfire said:
Well, it's damm well time someone said something nice about the corpex crews!!! I think that they win the "My management sucks the worst" trophy!
You can get the "I'm the biggest doosh" trophy!
737
 
Trogdor said:
Wouldn't that be monkey to monkey? Its been a while since spanish class, but I think that's what it is. Although maybe this describes the situation better.


Correct on all counts.
 
flyboyike said:
I think we should establish some rules for crew brawls, kinda like they used to have for duels in the olden days (maybe ALPA can do something about this). Here's what some of those rules might be:

  1. Prior to challenging another crewmember, the offended party must clearly state "I challenge you, sir/ma'am, to a duel".
  2. Since FOs are a lower lifeform than CAs, No CAs can duel with an FO. If a CA challenges an FO, said FO's CA must accept the challenge for him and duel with the offended CA.
  3. Similarly, should an FO challenge a CA, said CA's FO must accept the challenge and duel with the offended FO.
  4. Due to poor financial situation of most regional crews, the weapons choices will be limited. Flight cases may not be used (they're expensive). Jepp binders (with charts in them) may be used. Clip-on ties would work, so long as both parties are using a clip-on, otherwise one of the parties would have a length advantage.
  5. Insulting each other's aircraft is perfectly acceptable during a brawl, for example "Your plane has 5 APUs!", "You fly a French-Canadian airplane!", "You fly a Mexican A320" etc would all work.
  6. Insulting each other's airline (including any codeshare partners) is also acceptable.
  7. Insulting each other's management team is not only acceptable, but encouraged.
  8. You get the idea.
Feel free to add some more. I'm sure there are things I haven't thought of.

Thanks for the good laugh. that was great.
 
808pilot said:
its true....my buddy at mesaba was flying with one of the cheif pilots when he got the phone call about the fight....the asa captain was giving the mesaba fo a hard time about the mesaba captain being late...by 2 minutes....guy complained the entire ride, got to the airport, elbowed the fo as he walked by, fo had enough and threw his coffee at him, brawl broke out on the curb....van guy freaked out and ran inside to grab security....don't know what has happened since....

Clarification. The actual "fight" was between the FOs. It was eventually broken up by airport Five Oh. So there is no clear "winner". The captains and FAs just stood there shaking their heads.

I know the mesaba captain personally but will not release any names. I'm sure names will eventually float around the system. Besides, the XJ CA just showed up 2 minutes late and the ASA crew freaked out. (I think my buddy said he was on the phone getting screwed by scheduling and lost track of time.)

The XJ CA told me it wasn't real "fighting"- more like rolling around in the mud like little girls, slapping each other silly. But he said the XJ FO was the clear winner in the war of words during the van ride.
 
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~~~^~~~ said:
I wasn't going to weigh in on this thread because I thought it was kind of dumb, but if 4,000 page views, more posts than the Comair investigation threads and professions of group apologies are in the offering, apparently users of the Flight Info Board are interested in this story.

The only version of the story we have is from the coffee tosser. Now throwing coffee all over someone's uniform is a pretty low move. Why are you guys encouraging that sort of behavior?

Maybe the other guy was a commuter, on his way to a job interview, or maybe things did not unfold exactly as the coffee tosser exaplained it to his Chief Pilot. This is more the sort of thing that should be dealt with by ALPA professional standards.

I think all of us hold vans for other crews, but once a great while a guy doesn't wake up, crew scheduling moves things around, or someone is ill. Sounds like some folks had a rough morning... but why do we on this board ridicule a pilot for wanting to be on time? Is it not "cool?"

I thought the purpose of this board was first to help folks with employment questions, then as jobs became less plentiful the board morphed into a good source for industry news and opinion. Now it seems to be headed towards Jerry Springer land. Why?


Fins,

You are way too logical! Since the beginning of time, when logic and smooth talking hasn't worked, it's always reverted to primal pummeling! I guess that way, there is at least a winner!

Maybe, you should take note! When your lawsuit fails, you can always challenge D.W. to some all out bare knuckle combat! My money is on the big, tall, partially bald dude! He's got the reach!

Fins, litigation is for hootchies, bare knuckles are for real pilot MEN!

Sharks to the left, stingrays to the right, and then there are the delayed hotel buses! It's still a cruel and dangerous world!:eek:
 
Anytime I want to humiliate a pilot, I throw my pocket change on the ground and watch them dive for it. If you want to drive them really crazy, tell them you tossed 16 cents when you really only tossed 12.

Peace-
 
Wasn't there a fight between two pilots on an international flight over the atlantic a few years ago? I recall it being a foreign airliner too. It began over who would fly the plane and erupted into a real fist fight on the flight - or should I say "fightdeck."
 
Two Gulfstream fags from Europe had a fist fight over who got to sit in the cockpit jumpseat one time, I guess they were just dying to observe real airline pilots getting paid to work. That's why they can't jumpseat while in the "program."
 
TinGoose1 said:
Anytime I want to humiliate a pilot, I throw my pocket change on the ground and watch them dive for it. If you want to drive them really crazy, tell them you tossed 16 cents when you really only tossed 12.

I used to do a similar thing with bums where I would super-glue a quarter to the sidewalk and try to watch people pick it up. hehe. Sadistic, I know.
 
XPOO said:
I used to do a similar thing with bums where I would super-glue a quarter to the sidewalk and try to watch people pick it up. hehe. Sadistic, I know.

I glued a nickel to a desk in high school once. Same effect.
 

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