steel said:
Family Guy, once again, you have no idea what is going on here, do you? And you should, being that you work for a union busting firm. Pitiful. Well, good luck with that.
This has already been covered, but you apparently are having trouble comprehending....I dont work for a "union busting firm". If it helps you sleep better at night to tell yourself that, then go ahead. The truth is that I've been here for years, and will be here long after this is resolved.
steel said:
Do you disagree that if one has to stick it out here for a while that he/she won't want to make the best of it? Do you think making the best of it, asking for a wage commensurate with one's responsibilities, is so bad?
Again - invest some time and read the previous posts before you ask the same questions....I've already covered the topic of people being paid a wage commensurate with their responsibilities. Your union's demands of a 100% wage increase and a $200,000 signing bonus is not in line with that statement.
You want to bitch about the company not giving 'respectable offers', while you and your union are guilty of not making respectable requests. You need to stop aiming for the moon if you want to get a deal done in the next 5 years.
steel said:
Did you know we asked for wages already paid to pilots here at NetJets with the same benefits, if not better, flying comparable sized aircraft? Why are these wage demands EXORBITANT (thanks by the way) if management already pays the wages asked?
Management has made it clear that if you want higher pay, then you have to give them flexibility elsewhere in the contract. You bitch about the higher pay at NJI, but conveniently overlook the 6-5 schedule, the more favorable work rules, the higher productivity, the larger aircraft, and the avoided cost of having to deal with the bureaucracy of a union.
steel said:
As to the raises....what did an 8 year pilot make in 1999 as opposed to what they make today? If you say the same, then you win the big prize.
Again, this has been covered multiple times in the past - read the previous posts.
Both sides share an equal blame for there being no agreement right now.
If you were not unionized then you would have received raises every year, just like the people at NJI, NJE, EJM, and the flight center. You asked to be represented collectively, and thats what you have.
If pay is such a critical issue, then why did your union insist on renegotiating every clause in the contract - thereby wasting THREE years?
You could have had a raise last year when the company and union agreed on a tentative agreement, but you voted it down. You also changed leadership and locals....further delaying the process.
Moral of the story - dont bitch about how long its taking, when your side has a lot of control over the process as well.
steel said:
As I have said before, rid the company of the union busting firms, rid moisture and shamtulli of their egos and this gets done. But until that happens, I’m satisfied with how things are going. After all, according to you, "I’m getting a raise every year anyway."
As I've said before, rid yourself of the union and the embedded EGO's of your 'leaders' and see how things work out. NJI seems to be a very content bunch.
Yes, you are getting a raise every year. That doesnt seem to stop you from falsely advertising to the public that you've been without a raise since 1998.