Countdown to the CAL/UAL TA -- 45 days to go

[densoo]

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&year=2010&month=10&day=04&p0=104

What's going to be in it:

-- Full retropay based on the largest differential in seat and class between airlines

-- first class deadhead with pilot right-to-refuse segment

-- if pilot accepts non-first class deadhead it pays 200%--pilot can refuse segment

-- no rolling of reserve days

-- option of an 18 hour reserve callout--no conversion

-- five hour daily rig

-- pay starts at scheduled block out or actual block out time, whichever occurs first

-- pay ends at block in or scheduled block in, whichever occurs later

-- A-Plan "purchased" from each pilot having any A-Plan funds by company buying an annuity for the pilot and in the pilots name, equal to projected age 65 lump sum

-- purchased annuity is turned over in whole to the pilot; company is completely divested of A-Plan

-- B-Plan at 18%

-- 401K match up to 5%

-- PBS, but all absences loaded after the bid is run

-- PBS interface full GUI, drag and drop, global changes on all bid groups at once

-- 85 hour pay cap if any pilot furloughed

-- all a/c (jet, prop, solar, wind, geothermal, telekinesis...all) 50 seats or larger flown by mainline pilots

-- non-rev below exec level based on straight seniority, not title

-- CA IRO for CA, FO or CA IRO for FO; CA IRO if only one IRO needed

-- any sit time, scheduled or actual, greater than 90 minutes pays half time

 

[gutshotdraw]

Yep. Pretty much. Except you forgot that all vacation is paid at 200% of block....





Nice wish list though.

 

[bluefin]

85 hr cap if furloughing!!!!! More like 60, that way it will hurt to furlough, FRONT LINE EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE HIGHER NON-REV seniority than exec pukes, LONGEVITY PAY FOR ALL YEARS ON STREET other than these few minor items, looks good.

 

[densoo]

Yep. Pretty much. Except you forgot that all vacation is paid at 200% of block....Nice wish list though.

Thanks. If all absences are loaded after the PBS run, then vacation will take care of itself at more than 200%. You can bid a two 30-hour trips, one touches the first day of vacation and the other touches the last day of vacation, then the bid is awarded and the trips have to be bought from you because you've got vacation in that spot--like it used to be. You get paid 60 hours for two trips not flown.

This is why they got rid of this in C'02. It was a moneymaker and pilot emploment program. Plus the open time and trip trade really meant something. Now, not so much.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Thanks. If all absences are loaded after the PBS run, then vacation will take care of itself at more than 200%. You can bid a 30-hour trip over your vacation, then the bid is awarded and the trip has to be bought from you because you've got vacation in that spot--like it used to be. You get paid for the trip that you didn't fly, and for the vacation credit of 27 hours.

Just adding to the pie in the sky dreamlist.

 

[densoo]

corrected....they don't get paid for the trips AND vacation credit under the old system, but getting paid for all trips that touch vacations can equal more than double the current "vacation credit."

 

[HHH]

Just adding to the pie in the sky dreamlist.

Pie in the sky? If your expectations are not near this list then you need to reevaluate our position. There is so much money in this merger that the execs don't know what to do with it. The company can easily afford this "pie in the sky" list and then some.

If not, we walk.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Yeah what about longevity pay for being on the street?

What does the company want? A merger and a happy pilot force?

 

[gutshotdraw]

Pie in the sky? If your expectations are not near this list then you need to reevaluate our position. There is so much money in this merger that the execs don't know what to do with it. The company can easily afford this "pie in the sky" list and then some.

If not, we walk.

Then enjoy the picket line. If you think for a second that you can get all that, well, good on ya. I read the original post to my NERD (Never Ever Really Delta) pilot wife and she was laughing by the end of it.

 

[Flyforyou]

It will include whatever we decide to vote yes on.