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NEDude said:
What is the latest regarding classes? Just got called for an interview.

Actually what is the total story regarding the airline? Expansion/growth? More or changing domiciles with the merger?

Thanks.
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Here is the rumors, yes, rumors,
66 more newhires in 2010
LGA base, with a majority of the airplanes
MEM closing

these are the latest rumors!!!!!!
 
Moustache said:
Here is the rumors, yes, rumors,
66 more newhires in 2010
LGA base, with a majority of the airplanes
MEM closing

these are the latest rumors!!!!!!
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Rumors that have a lot of merit.

training instructors contracts being extended.

HR pulling resumes and starting interviews.

As far as the bases thing this isnt the first time ive heard both of those.
 
got the call today for an interview later this month. pumped been on the street for a while and can't wait for a chance to get the hell away from the real world.
 
I'm a little bummed to have to sit reserve on the 320 out of DTW while commuting from FL. Then I read this post about how some extremely experienced pilots are excited to have an interview to fly in the right seat of a 175 at Compass. I guess I should consider myself extremely fortunate. It's all relative. We all want to better our current situation, but it seems like no one is ever in the position they want to be in.
 
hockeypilot44 said:
I'm a little bummed to have to sit reserve on the 320 out of DTW while commuting from FL. Then I read this post about how some extremely experienced pilots are excited to have an interview to fly in the right seat of a 175 at Compass. I guess I should consider myself extremely fortunate. It's all relative. We all want to better our current situation, but it seems like no one is ever in the position they want to be in.
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Good post. I live in Michigan which has the unfortunate distinction of having the highest unemployment in the country. I see unemployed people, literally, every single day. When scheduling gives you a crappy trip on a two hour call out it's much easier to accept when you put it in perspective.
 
It is easy to be too proud and principalic when things are going good. And of course everyone sees the grass on the other side of the fence a bit greener. But the reality of todays economy and job market in pilot world is that there are way more people on the street then there are jobs available. I hate to say these words but everyone with a secure seat right now is very lucky. I couldn't even find a seat teaching in a cessna for over a year and a half. Its a rainfall for me just to have a chance at a job in a flightdeck.
 
What's driving all this hiring? No new airplanes, so it must be an increase in block hours? The LGA base makes sense if they'll be covering a lot of the new LGA hub DL has plans for.
 
Question: if DL furloughs pilots do they have the chance to go right into compass? If so, do they push down the most senior CA's or go to the bottom?? (I know this has been answered before I just forgot the process)))...
 
Scapegoat said:
Question: if DL furloughs pilots do they have the chance to go right into compass? If so, do they push down the most senior CA's or go to the bottom?? (I know this has been answered before I just forgot the process)))...
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They are put at the top.
 
We don't know what will happen if Delta furloughs. In theory, they would be put at the top and 90 percent of the Compass pilots would be furloughed. I don't think it would actually happen like that. It would take almost 3 years of furloughing to get to that end result I just mentioned. I've decided that ignorance is bliss until an actual furlough notice is sent out. Everything I've read and heard is that Delta has no intentions to furlough. I am extremely surprised by the Netjets furlough announced today so I guess anything can happen.
 
flap operator said:
What's driving all this hiring? No new airplanes, so it must be an increase in block hours? The LGA base makes sense if they'll be covering a lot of the new LGA hub DL has plans for.
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Perhaps they are getting ready for the FAR changes and flow ups to DAL when we start ramping up hiring. I'm still projecting late 2010/early 2011 hiring cycle to begin at DAL and it will be big numbers.
 
If that were the case Andy, maybe Mesaba should stop furloughing. I doubt it's for future FARs or even the DL flow. My guess is that it's all about block times and being short staffed.
 
andyd said:
Perhaps they are getting ready for the FAR changes and flow ups to DAL when we start ramping up hiring. I'm still projecting late 2010/early 2011 hiring cycle to begin at DAL and it will be big numbers.
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I really hope you're right. I don't really want to get furloughed.
 
I think we are way beyond that threshold. As for the Mesaba guys, I feel for you. You guys were put through the grinder with NWA and left for dead, then brought back to life the last couple of years to whipsaw against PCL only to be cut down to size again in this cycle. Hopefully things will turn around for your group as well, either in stablilizing the amount of lift DAL needs from Mesaba and ending the yo/yo effect or merging the wholely owned DCI's into one unit and letting the contracted DCI's go by the wayside as thier contracts expire over several years.
 
andyd said:
I think we are way beyond that threshold. As for the Mesaba guys, I feel for you. You guys were put through the grinder with NWA and left for dead, then brought back to life the last couple of years to whipsaw against PCL only to be cut down to size again in this cycle. Hopefully things will turn around for your group as well, either in stablilizing the amount of lift DAL needs from Mesaba and ending the yo/yo effect or merging the wholely owned DCI's into one unit and letting the contracted DCI's go by the wayside as thier contracts expire over several years.
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Now that's the most sense I've seen on this board in awhile.
 
andyd said:
I'm still projecting late 2010/early 2011 hiring cycle to begin at DAL and it will be big numbers.
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Wow, this is exactly opposite of what i see happening. The shift of domestic flying is happening all over. Its not going to slow down. Scope will be traded away for higher wages. Todays regionals will be doing the 100 seat flying all over the US in 10 to 15 years. Its not like DAL or AA are going to be ordering 100's of new 737's or 320's down the road. The E175's are the new 737. UAL is already making the shift away from them and look for a lot of the 320's to slowly go over time. DAL will do the same thing. They will have to have furloughs there in the next 2 years cuz the DCI's will be doing more of it.
I'n not sayin i like it, but the trend is obvious. Chepaer wages and more frequency. That's why companies like Allegiant, AT (& SWA to some extent), are changing the game of domestic flying. The days of starting at UAL, DAL or AA and moving up through all 5 of their types to retire in a 747 are long gone. Just look around. 3,000 PIC flying an RJ is useless. Where are you gonna go?
 
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Wow, this is exactly opposite of what i see happening. The shift of domestic flying is happening all over. Its not going to slow down. Scope will be traded away for higher wages. Todays regionals will be doing the 100 seat flying all over the US in 10 to 15 years.
Could be, but right now no regional has an airplane that will seat 100 people. Major airline pilots are trying to not let that happen. It IS true that Trans States has ordered the Mitsubishi MRJ, which in it's largest configuration, seats close to 100.

Its not like DAL or AA are going to be ordering 100's of new 737's or 320's down the road.
DAL is planning on ordering the Bombardier "C" to replace the DC-9s at DAL mainline.

The E175's are the new 737.
The E175 seats about 70-75. The 737s in operation today seat about 140 and up. The E175 is nowhere close in size to a 737.

UAL is already making the shift away from them and look for a lot of the 320's to slowly go over time. DAL will do the same thing.
They are currently buying as many MD-90s as possible, and plan on the "C".

They will have to have furloughs there in the next 2 years cuz the DCI's will be doing more of it.
If DAL were to furlough, the best time would have been Nov-Feb of this past year. They will NOT be furloughing in 2 years, barring a 9/11 or worse type of event. DAL has forecast they will be short next summer, and they have new aircraft coming online.

I'n not sayin i like it, but the trend is obvious. Chepaer wages and more frequency. That's why companies like Allegiant, AT (& SWA to some extent), are changing the game of domestic flying. The days of starting at UAL, DAL or AA and moving up through all 5 of their types to retire in a 747 are long gone. Just look around. 3,000 PIC flying an RJ is useless. Where are you gonna go?
To Qatar, as a Direct Entry -777 captain. When the hiring picks up, you will be able to go to Emirates, also, once again. They were hiring TONS of RJ guys.
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cliff
NBO
 
Just wait, you are wrong. The Scope ATM is closed, and from what I am seeing the company and the MEC not just think that but know it.
 
Scapegoat said:
Wow, this is exactly opposite of what i see happening. The shift of domestic flying is happening all over. Its not going to slow down. Scope will be traded away for higher wages. Todays regionals will be doing the 100 seat flying all over the US in 10 to 15 years. Its not like DAL or AA are going to be ordering 100's of new 737's or 320's down the road. The E175's are the new 737. UAL is already making the shift away from them and look for a lot of the 320's to slowly go over time. DAL will do the same thing. They will have to have furloughs there in the next 2 years cuz the DCI's will be doing more of it.
I'n not sayin i like it, but the trend is obvious. Chepaer wages and more frequency. That's why companies like Allegiant, AT (& SWA to some extent), are changing the game of domestic flying. The days of starting at UAL, DAL or AA and moving up through all 5 of their types to retire in a 747 are long gone. Just look around. 3,000 PIC flying an RJ is useless. Where are you gonna go?
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Pretty much everything you've stated is incorrect in this post. So, whatever you said, go the opposite and that's closer to fact.
 
Scapegoat said:
Wow, this is exactly opposite of what i see happening. The shift of domestic flying is happening all over. Its not going to slow down. Scope will be traded away for higher wages. Todays regionals will be doing the 100 seat flying all over the US in 10 to 15 years. Its not like DAL or AA are going to be ordering 100's of new 737's or 320's down the road. The E175's are the new 737. UAL is already making the shift away from them and look for a lot of the 320's to slowly go over time. DAL will do the same thing. They will have to have furloughs there in the next 2 years cuz the DCI's will be doing more of it.
I'n not sayin i like it, but the trend is obvious. Chepaer wages and more frequency. That's why companies like Allegiant, AT (& SWA to some extent), are changing the game of domestic flying. The days of starting at UAL, DAL or AA and moving up through all 5 of their types to retire in a 747 are long gone. Just look around. 3,000 PIC flying an RJ is useless. Where are you gonna go?
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Let me guess, that would be good for you Scapegoat? That's what I thought!!!
 
I was told 66 over the next several months into 2010. Only for increased utilization. Thats just from HR lady though, so take it for what its worth.
 
They are calling it increased utilization, but I do not know how those jets can fly any more than they are.
 
Acl they're only flying just under 10 hrs per day so if you give them even 2 more hrs per day that's about 2000 block hrs more a month hence the need for more people. However I am leary of the timing on this announcement as the lga rumor floats around. Yeah increased airplane utilization...out of lga!! That would kill whateve little morale we have left at this point! Campbell stated some lga flying this summer then retracted his statement afte letting the cat out like he knew he said something wrong. This being said I am not excited about more flying and more growth at dci, wish it
was other way around...my $.02
 

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