Comair MEC endorses contract changes

[chperplt]

There is no need at all for this pilot group to sign a concessionary contract. NONE! Period!

And there is no indication that we will. Time will tell..

 

[ATRedneck]

Great. Now XJT will have the "best" contract. Not exactly the way I'd liked to have seen it happen.

Good luck, CMR brothers. Fight the power!

 

[shamrock]

So a proposal from the ASA pilots to match Comair's contract (after the "adjustments") should be reasonable to Delta, right? I mean, if it's acceptable for Comair I would think it would be acceptable for ASA too, but I'm not that naive.

Not saying we should do that, but the "zero net gain, cost neutral" bullsh!t that management is so stuck on is getting old.

My life isn't "cost neutral".

 

[Mayday911]

I believe Horizon has the best contract (pay rates), as of right now.

No matter how you spin it...changing a working agreement before its amendable due to management requests in exchange for "guaranteed" growth, is what makes pilots whores. We are in fact our own worst enemies. Nothing in this life is guaranteed, so be careful what you give up in exchange for a guarantee.

"If you want me to take a sh!t in a box and mark it guaranteed, I can. I got spare time" -Chris Farley.

On the other hand....better for Comair to get the growth than
Sh!tauqua.

Mayday

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

Is it not funny how it takes three years to negotiate gains in a contract and three weeks to negotiate cuts?

 

[cl65capt]

Not funny at all

Next you'll get a couple days of road shows, then a 72 hour window to vote in and that will be it. All that time and feet dragging to get what you've got and it all goes bye bye in a flash.

 

[AV8700]

Next you'll get a couple days of road shows, then a 72 hour window to vote in and that will be it. All that time and feet dragging to get what you've got and it all goes bye bye in a flash.

not if they vote NO.

 

[cl65capt]

I hope they do

I hope they do vote NO. However, Fred's no dummy, he only needs 51% and talking to some of my buddies over there he just might get it.

 

[bvt1151]

Sounds like some of your buddies are pretty intelligent.

 

[cl65capt]

Sounds to me like Fred is just a way better sales man than Randy ever was. Hope the E170 is worth it.

 

[chperplt]

Why is everyone assuming that the vote will be a majority yes? We all know what happens when we assume.

The fact is that there is a very good chance that the answer will be no. There's no deal with the FAs yet, and probably won't be. Without a deal from both, Fred says the deal is dead.

Why don't we wait and see what the actual verbage is and then argue the points then.

 

[generaltso]

The result to me is pretty obvious, the Comair pilot group will pass it and give up pay for growth. It is ironic how the rest of the industry (CHQ in particular) was hated for doing this, but now Comair will be doing it themselves.

I hope they vote NO, just like I hope every regional pilot votes NO on any contract.

 

[Captain Overs]

We can all thank the Freedom Air pilots, I mean scabs, (OOPS!) did I say that? I mean Mesa pilots who jumped over fellow pilots to fly a 70-90 seat jet for peanuts only to be put back on the Mesa list. Thanks for lowering the bars you jack*sses! I guess the saying "Pay peanuts get monkeys" is true.

 

[DougCorp-9]

When I worked a Comair everyone always looked at what we were getting so they could piggyback on our agreement. After 9/11 many regionals gave concessions but not Comair. Last I checked they are still where they were the day the current contract was signed. So my question is.... why don't all you people stop bitching and do some of you own f--king work instead of worrying about what Comair pilots are doing. How about you all improve your own contracts. The Comair guys are probably sick of looking around and seeing themselves getting sold out so they figure they might as well look out for number one.

 

[fugghedabowdit]

Well said DC-9

The bottom line is we have no idea how this vote will go because we have no idea whats in the freakin thing. One of the many lessons learned during the strike is that a roadshow presentation can make or break a TA.