Comair Crash

[PunchTheClown]

CBS news just reported that they confirmed that the plane took off on the wrong runway. The said it was from a "reliable" source.

 

[svcta]

MSNBC just reported that is has been confirmed that the a/c departed off the wrong runway(26). That there were some lights on it for some reason that must have confused teh crew(as best I can interpret from the newsies). Sorry to hear for any reason.....god speed.

 

[GoingHot]

the female "reporter" on MSNBC stated that "their producer just tried calling the 1-800 number set up by Delta and was on hold for 15 minutes."

With all of the laws on the books, I hope someone can find something to charge this D!ckhead news producer with. Or anyone else who is not a relative, but calls a number set up for relatives. Relatives can't get through on the line, because it's jammed with reporters.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Guys I apologize for calling a spade a spade. I hope I am wrong, and of course I am just speculating, but. . . .

No one's arguing that you're wrong. They're just pointing out that you're an a-hole.

They probably did take off on 26. Even if that's the case, your comments have added exactly 0 to the knowledge or discussion. You took the opportunity to show how smart you are by piling on to a dead man. You're not strengthening the case that you're an adult by continuing to defend your inconsiderate and juvenile "student pilot" message board show-off crap. Just shut up.

God's blessing and mercy to all involved.

 

[Metro752]

I am so sorry for all the innocent people who died in this crash.

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[RTRHD]

RWY 26 No lights. Was that true. OTS Indef.

 

[Dorkjet]

Comair

My deepest and most profound condolences to all of you at Comair. My thoughts, prayers, and tears are with you all.

A former ASA brother.

 

[sleepy]

From CBS News:

"U.S. officials who requested anonymity told CBS News Correspondent Bob Orr that the pilots apparently used a runway that was too short to accommodate the takeoff of the jet."

This is a real shame, I am guessing they were on a CDO?

 

[Dorkjet]

Comair

My deepest and most profound condolences to all of you at Comair. My thoughts, prayers, and tears are with you and your families.

A former ASA brother.

 

[CrewResearch]

Thoughts and prayers with the crew and passengers and their families.

My condolences to everyone at Comair.

 

[Murdoughnut]

On the live news feed they had a weatherman show doppler radar from around the airport at the time of departure. They did a minute by minute tracking and it showed a dissipating cell (about 3/4 of a mile wide) moving east along the departure path for 26. Could have affected visibility.

 

[Metro752]

On the live news feed they had a weatherman show doppler radar from around the airport at the time of departure. They did a minute by minute tracking and it showed a dissipating cell (about 3/4 of a mile wide) moving east along the departure path for 26. Could have affected visibility.

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[katanabob]

...the official verdict was 'pilot error,' but since their passengers, who were innocent of the controls, also failed to survive, it seemed that fate was the hunter. As it had been and would be...

-Ernest Gann

 

[TOOL CRIB]

This is a real shame, I am guessing they were on a CDO?

Good grief. You worked for ASA. The Comair flight was flying to Atlanta. You should know there is no comair crew base in Atlanta. No CDO. This was already discussed.

 

[Murdoughnut]

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I meant it could have affected visibility to the extent that they mistook 22 for 26.

I just heard from the live feed that airport sources have officially confirmed that the aircraft took off on 26. God bless them all.

 

[JCJ]

I agree. The Jepps haven't been updated yet with the changes at that airport. Absent specific instructions from the controller "taxi Alpha, cross 26, Alpha 5, to runway 22," I think it would be very easy for someone to accidentally takeoff from 26 in the dark of early morning since once you get on 26, you would find that Alpha straight ahead no longer takes you to 22 and you would be led to think that you are already on 22.

The helicopter footage from today shows the taxiway complex at the NE end of runways 22 and 26 to be substantially different than what is on the current NACO airport diagram (and Google earth). The runway resurfacing and expansion of the safety area (which presumably resulted in the configuration change) was just done about a week ago.

As I type this, NBC says it has confirmed from airport sources that the aircraft took off from 26 (the short runway). If that's true, the new and uncharted taxiway configuration may be a big human factors issue in this crash.

 

[JettBoii]

Heartbreaking. Condolences to families and friends of crew and the passengers on board. I know they fought it to the end. Godspeed.

 

[ReportCanoa]

Guys, check your runway alignment before blasting off and give that stby. vertical card compass a few taps cause it gets hung-up. Tragic day.

 

[m80drvr]

Sad day no matter what happened, My families prayers go out to all effected by this.

 

[TAWS]

Having the rwy heading bugged before you leave the gate is a good policy.

How many times have you bugged the runway hdg, but were given a departure hdg before you took the runway, bugged that and forgot about it!!!!!!
All of us could have done this - human factors!!
The vultures are already descending on the families, I predict lawsuits filed within 2 days!!! - Comair, Jepp, Airport Authority, you name it, the a$$holes are going to drag everyone into this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!