CoEx to keep the 69 erj's

[Alchemy]

Not credible at all. LA base rumors have been around since we started flying out there. That was what, 2003? Highly unlikely. Eagle and skywest already have a pretty corner on the regional routes in that market I would think.

 

[EMB Skillz]

When your Flyi like operation folds in less then a year, we'll be happy to take those ERJs of your hands. At lesser rates! And this will be on top of the 170 growth with Coex. Things look bright for RAH!

 

[Meiguy]

Hey CHQ guys. How many of your current fleet of 145's have airstairs on them. Just curious.

 

[ATRCA]

Yeah, I was using 11,000 lbs for a legacy, since he was asking why embraer claims it can go 3000 NM. I'm pretty sure the legacy just holds 5717/side, like the LR's. No ventral tank on the legacy.

Anyway all just estimates.

Wrong, the Legacy has several ventral tanks and carries far more fuel than the XR.

 

[flatspin7]

I believe the Legacy carries somewhere in the range of 18,000 lbs, that is compared the 13000 in the XR

 

[Popeye0537]

Hey CHQ guys. How many of your current fleet of 145's have airstairs on them. Just curious.

Not 100% sure but, DCI birds all have them, United Ex have them, AA has one or two(I think) US dosen't have any.

 

[Standby 1]

When your Flyi like operation folds in less then a year, we'll be happy to take those ERJs of your hands. At lesser rates! And this will be on top of the 170 growth with Coex. Things look bright for RAH!

You're not even a CHQ pilot, so why keep posting?

 

[Alchemy]

Wrong, the Legacy has several ventral tanks and carries far more fuel than the XR.

Yes, we established that on page four. Welcome to last week.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Or Lease them to CHQ at a significantly higher rate....

To the best of my knowledge, not possible per the CPA.

-Neal

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Does the contract say anything about xjt must have 274? If not why did 2 more show up on property last month if cal doesn't want them?

Because the financing has been in place for quite some time now and those planes are coming. Block hours for XJT are way up and even with 273 jets on property right now the summer flying season is going to be tough. And yes, the current CPA stated that XJT would fly 274 jets for CAL unless CAL gave XJT notice, which it did. Thus, XJT will now fly 205 aircraft for CAL as of 1/1/07 (with the appropriate wind down schedule).

-Neal

 

[The Drizzle]

Not 100% sure but, DCI birds all have them, United Ex have them, AA has one or two(I think) US dosen't have any.

there are 2 or 3 on the USAirways side that have airstairs

 

[Paul R. Smith]

When your Flyi like operation folds in less then a year, we'll be happy to take those ERJs of your hands. At lesser rates! And this will be on top of the 170 growth with Coex. Things look bright for RAH!

Even though your avatar is purely malicious in spirit, I actually think its pretty funny.

Its too bad your such a troll.

 

[Flying-Corporal]

Some of you numbnuts that are trying to point out anything you can and spin it negetive need to relax. The chief pilots came in and talked to us today and said that the planes are being placed into service where all XJET employees will be working with them. Not just pilots but MX, MGMT, Agents, etc. ...

The difference between XJT and alot of other companies is that the Company tries to make sure that we work as a team and have respect for each other.

Think about it, MGMT could have easily come to us and asked for pay cuts to better compete for the CAL flying. They never asked for 1 cent from us. We have a good company over here that the majority of people i would assume would agree that they are proud to be an XJETer. For this level of the career chain its a good place to work.

It sounds very nice and sweet, my friend, but remember you live in the world of capitalism where everyone competes with each other. You're nice with employees and the next you know your company is bankrupt. Look at what happened to Independance. MGMT ALWAYS thinks what's nice to the airline!

I am sure you're proud to be an XJ dude, but do you think that they would've kept you on payroll just because you're a nice guy and everyone liked you? Employees are like parts in a big moving machine and if parts can be found cheaper (e.g. outsourcing things to Asia), then that's what MGMT will do. It doesn't matter how many years you've worked for them or how much you love the company etc...

Conclusion:
The MGMT can keep the airplanes and give uplifting speaches (and that's what they will always do no matter how bad the situation is to prevent panic) but unless they start flying them COMPETITIVELY things will NOT get better.

FC

 

[Paul R. Smith]

XJ = Mesaba

XJT = Expressjet

 

[Weasil]

Well I for one am amazed they made this announcement so early. Noone can accuse the airline business of not being interesting.

 

[flyingtoilet]

It sounds very nice and sweet, my friend, but remember you live in the world of capitalism where everyone competes with each other. You're nice with employees and the next you know your company is bankrupt. Look at what happened to Independance. MGMT ALWAYS thinks what's nice to the airline!

Wrong. Taking care of your employees is rule #1 if you want to survive and have employee loyalty. I managed a customer service department for a marketing company for 3 years and if you wanted peak performance from your subordinates, you damned well had better taken care of them. Last time I checked, most employees at SWA are pretty happy because they have a fairly good relationship with management. I don't see SWA in trouble...

 

[Kip Dynomite]

It sounds very nice and sweet, my friend, but remember you live in the world of capitalism where everyone competes with each other. You're nice with employees and the next you know your company is bankrupt. Look at what happened to Independance. MGMT ALWAYS thinks what's nice to the airline!

I am sure you're proud to be an XJ dude, but do you think that they would've kept you on payroll just because you're a nice guy and everyone liked you? Employees are like parts in a big moving machine and if parts can be found cheaper (e.g. outsourcing things to Asia), then that's what MGMT will do. It doesn't matter how many years you've worked for them or how much you love the company etc...

Conclusion:
The MGMT can keep the airplanes and give uplifting speaches (and that's what they will always do no matter how bad the situation is to prevent panic) but unless they start flying them COMPETITIVELY things will NOT get better.

FC

Hmmm...You've got it all figured out. Today's companies spend millions of dollars creating HR departments. They've learned from corporate history, an important key to having a successful lasting company is friendly employee management relations. Bad employee management relations can bring an otherwise successful company to its knees. Airlines are largely dependent on employee performance, the good ones have learned this. The ones who still have the (outsourcing to asia) mentality will crumble. Expressjet is a regional who gets it, flying competitely INCLUDES treating your employees honestly and with respect. I think we're still hiring, so send in an application. Maybe you'll get a job and see the light. At the regional level, it's a great job.

 

[flatspin7]

I ditto that..XJT is a probably the best place to work in the regional Industry... I have been in vans with crews from just about every regional airline and you hear stories of management and crew sched that boggle the mind. Granted I am now at CAL and XJT cant hold a stick to a major airline but if I had it to do all over again I would work there again in a second.

 

[punkpilot48]

Taking care of your employees is rule #1 if you want to survive and have employee loyalty.

How the hell has uncle hulie and JO been makin money for all this time?

 

[LegacyDriver]

I thought all of CHQ's AAC airplanes were 140s. None of the 15 140s have airstairs. When did CHQ get 145s in KSTL?