Chautauqua Triumph

[777_Jackpot]

Its not about being underbid. None of us know what the actual bid came out to be. From what i understand, XJETs bid was lower than CHQ but CAL said no thanks. It didnt matter to CAL what our bid was they just want to bring someone else in to make us fight back and forth. There is only one way to stop this crap and it is to start working together to join as a solid labor group under one contract as Regional Pilots. That is the only way to stop the bs of playing ourselves against each other. Until then it will continue and keep wages low.

Maybe as of present, thats all they think your work is worth.

 

[Apache 5]

I hope we park all 69 in EWR and IAH while CHQ and CAL search for airplanes. Who cares if they dont fly, just park them.

 

[BlueCanoe]

I hope we park all 69 in EWR and IAH while CHQ and CAL search for airplanes. Who cares if they dont fly, just park them.

Man, that's genius!!! With Embraer not producing any, I'll bet we'd have a hard time getting in line for them....especially since we're such bad customers...

 

[Skychief]

No. what I said was very literal in meaning. I, with every definition of sincerety, hope they (CHQ), and others alike, keep under cutting other carriers. CHQ is in a great position. By NOT having a contract that has hamstrung the company to wages that the industry cannot support (unlike most all other carriers), they can easily under bid, sustain growth and rise to greater levels of profitabilty by offering the same product. Want more flying, more pay? Supply a better, higher quality product... or do it cheaper. Simple as that!

I really don't know how to respond to this...I'm not being nasty, I just don't know how to respond....are you saying that you hope the uncertainty that lies with all carriers in this industry continues? I think it is safe to say that at some point in time, CHQ will be on the short end of the stick....who will be taking the flying then....Mesa? TSA? ASA? Skywest? XJT? This is a horrible reality in our industry and I really don't see any end to it. Lets face it, the larger / bigger CHQ gets, the higher their cost will likely be...the employees get a bit more leverage and demand higher wages and poof, before you know it, someone else who has taken paycuts or settled for a lesser contract to keep flying that was theirs now takes some CHQ flying because they can do it cheaper....it is a viscious cycle and it is not good for any of us. Please don't get defensive about this issue...I am not pointing the finger at CHQ....this is just the reality of the world in which we work. As I've stated before, this all could have been avoided with brand scope, but that ship has long since sailed!

Also, I'm not sure I agree with your argument that the reason XJT lost the flying is because our cost are higher.....I have no hard information, but I do feel CAL would have chosen to withdrawl those 69 airplanes even if XJT was the lowest bidder (only CAL knows who that was). The reason for this is just plain good business on CAL's part....don't put all of your eggs in one basket!

Again, I'm not trying to throw rocks at CHQ or anyone else...just trying to have a good discussion.

Skychief

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/expressjet-2005030455.htm

 

[sleeves]

Flying 69 aircraft as the new COEX will be outstanding! I love this company. Here come the upgrades!

-EMB SKILLZ

Soon to be EMB CAPT SKILLZ

What comes around goes around.

 

[ED GRIMLEY]

Hey, here's a serious question: SDF and CRP for my layovers this weekend. Anybody want to suggest some good BBQ?

In SDF none better than Bootleg BBQ on Preston Hwy

 

[Stifler's Mom]

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[Ride Orange]

Everyone who responded to the "EMB SKILLZ" fake hate stirring message thinking it's real is a Tard.

 

[MJG]

That being said, on our meeting with Jim, he made it a point to say that the company was not interested in seeking concessions to keep or gain flying. To my knowledge, he has never lied to us. He may not always say what you want to hear, but he has never lied. The man looked me in the face and said this. I have to take him at his word until he proves otherwise.

Well.......I wish I could say you're correct.......but........

I can think of several occasions, especially during C'04 negotiations......

Don't drink the koolaid, it's bad for your health.....

 

[beechcowboy]

Well.......I wish I could say you're correct.......but........

I can think of several occasions, especially during C'04 negotiations......

Don't drink the koolaid, it's bad for your health.....

I don't dring koolaid, never liked it much. Seriously, if they were going to pursue concessions, don't you think they would've done it by now to try and preserve the feed we were providing to CAL? I mean, anything can happen, and I am not saying they won't ask, but I think it is highly unlikely. At this point, it is a day late and a dollar short. Call me an idiot, but I still forsee growth. I think we will all be better for having gone through this transition. That being said, I still wish we could've kept the 69 a/c capacity. You have to respect mgmt for taking a stand against CAL. They wanted to beat us up on our margin. XJT simply said, we have a service, we do it well, and it has a cost... now we will take some risk on fuel, etc. with you, but we are not going to take it in the pooper... if you don't like it, we will seek life elsewhere. Personally, I like Jim's style, and I don't usually like mgmt types.

 

[EMB Skillz]

Wassup! Thankz fo respondin, yo! I can see by yo avatarz dat I be knowin some o yall from CHQ Lounge!

Once again, hate da game, not da playa!

Peace!

EMB (24 y.o. CAPT) SKILLZ

 

[FatAlbert]

I'll be thinking of Ludacris now when Im in XJT's airplane

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE B!TCH, GET OUT DA WAY GET OUT DA WAY!!!

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Wassup! Thankz fo respondin, yo! I can see by yo avatarz dat I be knowin some o yall from CHQ Lounge!

Once again, hate da game, not da playa!

Peace!

EMB (24 y.o. CAPT) SKILLZ

This gimmick account isn't even close to funny, thus it should be banned.

 

[EMB Skillz]

This gimmick account isn't even close to funny, thus it should be banned.

Why don't you ban yourself? Left seat at 24 years old is a great accomplishment! So is an airline that signs a new contract for more flying.

--Bye Bye-- General EMB

 

[gearjockey]

Why don't you ban yourself? Left seat at 24 years old is a great accomplishment! So is an airline that signs a new contract for more flying.

be4 U make da big bucks-- Ya gotta pazz that checkride first

a$$ whole-mother 4ukker!

Practiz those rear end skillz, biotch