Bush Resignation Hailed By World Leaders

[Typhoon1244]

Sorry for being repetitive, but I just noticed this:

Oh, I get it, you are an individual and conservatives are one big group that all think the same. I can inderstand that, simple minds generally have to force complex and varied things into large, homogenous groups in order to not challenge their simplistic and illogical worldview.

You really expect me to believe that you don't see liberals as "one big group that all thinks the same."

I may be simple-minded...anything's possible! However, I am not a hypocrite. That's a quality you have a monopoly on.

 

[siucavflight]

Typhoon,
You did say that people who watch FOX are stupid

 

[Typhoon1244]

Typhoon, you did say that people who watch FOX are stupid

As did about ten or fifteen other people in this forum. Are they pathetic simpletons too?

I guess you're right and everybody else is wrong, huh?

(A lot of people watch Jerry Springer, too. They don't all take it seriously.)

 

[bart]

Typhoon,

You just go out and play with Michael Moore and Al Franken.

Us grown-ups will call you when dinner is ready.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Us grown-ups will call you when dinner is ready.

Wow. How long did it take you to come up with that?

Bart, I was irritated by this thread until I realized that you're really a very small man. You accuse others of behaving the very way you behave...like a bully who instigates fights and screams that the other boy started it. You're idea of reasoned debate is "you're pathetic" and "grow up." You're not worthy of any degree of respect...or my time.

In the words of Barbara Bush, "I'm through with you."

 

[46Driver]

Actually, I watch Fox News because of Laurie Dhue......

 

[Typhoon1244]

...I watch Fox News because of Laurie Dhue...

Well, okay. You're not stupid.

 

[siucavflight]

Typhoon,
Let me clarify one thing. I do not think that you are stupid because of where you choose to get your news from. I watch FOX news, you watch CNN. What ever network you watch you should understand where the reporting is coming from so that you can make your own informed judgement. I know FOX has a right slant to it so i take that into consideration when watching it. And you should realize that when you watch CNN they are coming at you with a left slant.
Many people use the same argument that you do, compared to FOX CNN seems far left only because of how far right FOX is. When in fact FOX came about because people wanted a network that did not tilt to the left like CNN.
Please do not call people who watch FOX stupid, when you do that you seem like you are toting the line that so many of the hollywood liberals do, and i am sure that we can all agree that the Michael Moores, and alec baldwins are so out of touch with reality that their opinions do not really matter at all. Today I read a quote of michael moores
"The passengers on the hijacked jets of 9/11 were scaredy cats because they were white. If they were black they would have been like no little short guy with a small knive will hijack my airplane." What in the hell is that? All that i am saying is that if you want to have a intelligent conversation about politics dont dismiss the other side as "stupid"

 

[Typhoon1244]

Okay, let me clarify some things.

First, I don't watch CNN. I watch MSNBC. To be quite honest, I don't really care for any of the major television news outlets. I get tired to the "fluff." (Do any of you all really care about Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck's wedding?) Out of CNN, Fox, and MSNBC, the latter seems to work harder at presenting a professional image.

Second, you're taking an offhand remark I made about USAToday and turning it into "people who watch Fox are stupid." I didn't say that. Another pilot expressed disdain that USAToday, the MacDonalds of newspapers, is so widely read, and finished with the thought, "but what do you expect when so many people watch Fox news?" or words to that effect. I agreed with him...I agreed that the majority of Americans will unfortunately accept their news from the source that challenges them the least. And you have to admit, Fox is not very challenging. (By the way, I never miss a USAToday crossword puzzle.)

Third, I'm not a fan of Michael Moore. I'm not a fan of any extremists. People like him and Martin Sheen (whom I like as an actor) harm the credibility of liberal philsosphy...just as Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson damage the credibility of conservative philosophy. (I know what you're thinking: "Al Franken is an extremist." No, not really. Read the book.)

I said before I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative...and it's a fact that's difficult to defend. To you, I look like a liberal. To Mike Moore, I'm sure I look like a conservative.

If I've come off as arrogant, I apologize. Political discussions bring out the worst in me. Ask around; I'm really not that bad a guy!

 

[Foobar]

Foobar: I'm betting this will be at least a 5 page thread.

Almost there guys.

 

[empenage]

Foobar:

Now THAT was dam funny..!

FalconCapt:

In Brazilia, looking for food....

 

[bart]

Typhoon,

Dinner is still not ready...

Maureen Dowd is looking for you.

By the way, MSNBC slants even further left than CNN.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Typhoon, dinner is still not ready...

[Yawn.]

 

[Snakum]

if you didn't have to resort to insults and name-calling.

Agreed Typhoon ...

If you go back and look at all the political threads of the past year, it's quite obvious that the Chickenhawks are generally the name callers, the folks who are first to get personal when they are upset. Go look ... it's pretty sad. It's as if reasoned, intelligent debate among mature, educated, professionals somehow eludes them.

If someone from another country, who knew little about American politics, were reading the political 'debates' here they'd logically conclude that right-wingers are rabid, obnoxious, automatons loudly and rudely proclaiming the gospel according to those who are selling our personal liberty down the river, selling our economy out to the lowest bidder, selling their souls to big business fat cats in order to line their own pockets, and sending our sons and daughters to die for oil money.

And they'd be right on the money.

Minh
"It's a sorry world ... and getting sorrier every day that the foxes are guarding the hen-house."

 

[Typhoon1244]

If someone from another country, who knew little about American politics, were reading the political 'debates' here they'd logically conclude that right-wingers are rabid, obnoxious, automatons loudly and rudely proclaiming the gospel according to those who are selling our personal liberty down the river, selling our economy out to the lowest bidder, selling their souls to big business fat cats in order to line their own pockets, and sending our sons and daughters to die for oil money.

On the other hand, they are very snappy dressers...

(Maureen Down and I are having dinner tonight...wanna come over?)

 

[sky37d]

P.S. My father was dirt-poor. He managed to find a spot in the guard when his draft number was about to come up. Nobody in their right mind would have wanted to be an infantry conscript in that big sh!t-@ss mess. Thank you so much LBJ.
[/B]

Met him once, LBJ, gave me a little medal. Didn't want to be infantry draftee, joined up, then volunteered for jump school, then Special Forces. Good decision. Lost lots of good friends, real friends, the kind you can bet your life on, because they are betting on you. Unfortunately, some lost that bet. Fortunately, I didn't.

Presidents have a tough job. Eveyone blames govt, but mostly govt is a bunch of people doing what they think is necessary to get by. Best folks are upper echelon, but they have little influence on the mediocre civil servants that make all our lives hell.

Smaller govt would be a good thing, except the civil servants couldn't survive in the real world, and we couldn't afford the unemployment, and in reality, it's all about power, so the more people you have working for you, the bigger the budget, the more power you have. No one is going to give that up.

Oh, and while we are so far off topic, I don't understand the religion thing. I mean, Moses pre-dated Muhammed, and Jesus, and is a fundamental tenent of all religions , so when he came down from the mountain with the tablets, I thought it said "though shalt not kill". I didn't think it meant "though shall not kill unless you live in northern ireland, in which case it's okay to kill protestants if you are catholic", or, "though shall not kill unless you are jewish, in which case it is okay to kill muslims", or any of a hundred variations on the above. Now, I have, but we called it war. Doesn't make it any more right.

We try to apply our western mores to people who do not share them. And then are suprised when they don't.

 

[Snakum]

Maureen Down and I are having dinner tonight...wanna come over?)

I'm there dude!

joined up, then volunteered for jump school, then Special Forces.

Me too. But they wouldn't let me out of the Mech Infantry, unfortunately.

Minh "4187 for Everything" Thong
(Former Pseudo Candy-striper, 10th Special Forces - Bad Tolz)

 

[sky37d]

No candy stripper, got the real thing. 6th and 5th, then back to 6th.

 

[Snakum]

I begged, pleaded, and filled out 4187s till my COs (both units) told me to "Cool it!". Still a no go for a Q-School slot. At the time, the only way to get to JFK was to re-enlist under the BEAR program.

I just heard on NPR that recruiters can now sign a young, patriotic 'career-changer' up to go to Q-School immediately after Infantry School. They're getting alot of sharp, late-twenty somethings who want to give back to their country and have a little adventure before returning to cubicles in the business world.

A good deal! Wish I was 20-something again.

Minh

 

[Typhoon1244]

Wish I was 20-something again.

Don't we all.

That is, we all wish we were twenty...not just you.