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Typhoon1244 said:
Regards (which we all know you don't mean),
Typhoon1244

Dude, if you search, you'll find that I sometimes leave off the "regards".

This will be one of those times.

enigma
 
Sorry, enigma, I just can't stay away! I'll try to make this the last one, though.

100LL, you're a marvel. You have absolutely no sense of irony whatsoever.

Here's the difference between you and me: I love our country the way an adult loves his mother...with great caring and support, but knowing that they haven't always been right (eg. slavery, Indian affairs, U.S.S. Maine, Korea, Chile and Pinochet, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, the environment, etc, etc.). You and the other FoxNews conservatives love our country the way a four year old loves his mother: mommy is good, everything she does is good, and anyone who says otherwise is bad.

Very few things are that black-and-white...just ask Nixon. :D


Okay, I've had it with politics for a while. Discussions like this are like masterbation...without the big payoff at the end.
 
[ I love our country the way an adult loves his mother...with great caring and support, but knowing that they haven't always been right
Typhoon, i just want to point out out something, what you said was not a "Typhoon original" like you may want us all to believe. It was a quote from Real Time with Bill Mahr last week. I just want everybody to know that you are not that creative. I pity you, stealing someone elses quote to make your point. Very sad
 
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Oh, my, yes, I indeed did categorically state the US has never been at fault. I have been outed. I distinctly remember saying so. So gracious of you to point it out.

The point? The US has done a better job than most, if not all nations in promoting freedom. Perfect, no. Trying, yes.


Irony? I know irony when I see it. I don't see any here.

Soooo... the fact that i don't find simply personally bashing politicians of any stripe humorous means I can't get the joke? The joke isn't funny, mister. I feel like an adult standing amongst a group of 10-year-olds cackling over bathroom humor.

I guess my taste in humor is more sophisticsted. Don't get me wrong - I might like arguing politics, but I see little humor in it. Mostly I see chaos. That may be humorous to some, I guess.


BTW: The entertainment value (and instructional too) of jerking a leftie's chain (which you may or may not be) never really diminishes for me - the response is so predictable.

The constant assumptions and accusations about conservatives never changes.

Pattern goes like this-

Liberal: States opinion

Conservative: Challenges opinion

Liberal: Flings accusation at conservative that has almost nothing to do with the topic at hand. Name-calling substitutes for reasoned debate, and topic is diverted.


Conservatives occasionally stoop to this behavior (as I will periodically) but for liberals it is the only trick they know.

The funniest part is that they don't understand that many conservatives take their disapproval as validation that we are on the correct path.

Keep the flames coming. Bell the cat, you know.
 
siucavflight said:
Typhoon, i just want to point out out something, what you said was not a "Typhoon original" like you may want us all to believe. It was a quote from Real Time with Bill Mahr last week.
Actually, it was originally written by Al Franken, and I don't have it memorized so I was paraphrasing. I don't get HBO so I didn't see the Bill Mahr show. I'm not sure if Mahr was invoking it--as I was--or if he merely came to the same conclusion on his own.

Forgive me. I was using the Ann Coulter method...making statements without documenting them. I'll include footnotes next time. :D The funny thing is that I'd considered adding the phrase "as Al Franken once said...", but decided it was uncessary because I thought someone might argue the merits of the sentiment instead of screaming "plagiarism!"

In any case, it's still true...regardless of who said it first!

Now, do you have anything of value to add to the discussion, siucavflight?
 
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100LL... Again! said:
Irony? I know irony when I see it. I don't see any here.
The entertainment value (and instructional too) of jerking a leftie's chain (which you may or may not be) never really diminishes for me - the response is so predictable. Pattern goes like this-

Liberal: States opinion
Conservative: Challenges opinion
Liberal: Flings accusation at conservative that has almost nothing to do with the topic at hand. Name-calling substitutes for reasoned debate, and topic is diverted.

Conservatives occasionally stoop to this behavior (as I will periodically) but for liberals it is the only trick they know.
See? You don't understand irony! The pattern you just described certainly exists, but the roles are reversed!

It goes like this...

Conservative: Iraq is the real enemy. We must attack Iraq.

Liberal: But Iraq doesn't appear to be an immediate threat. Wouldn't our time be better served hunting for Bin Laden and his cronies?

Conservative: You're a bleeding-heart liberal anti-American homosexual communist! (Or as Bill O'Reilly says, "shut up!")

So yeah, I see the humor in stuff like this. It's funny when someone behaves a certain way, then accuses his opponent of that behavior. You hope that nobody notices such duplicity...but we do.
The funniest part is that they don't understand that many conservatives take their disapproval as validation that we are on the correct path.
The reverse is true, as well.
 
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46Driver said:
Being a liberal...
Who says I'm a liberal? I don't like Democrats either, big man. If this thread had been titled "Bill Clinton: Best President Ever," I'd be the first one saying "hold on a minute, there!" Just because I think George W. is a disaster of a president doesn't automatically make me a liberal.

Besides, Flywithastick says conservatives don't categorize people. Only liberals do that...so I guess you're a liberal too! :D
 
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Aren't we touchy...... Actually, in some cases I am quite liberal, in others I am a very conservative. George W. wasn't my first choice as President either - I rather liked Senator McCain (actually met him in person at Dulles and jokingly called him a squid - he started laughing and called me a typical Jarhead)

The main reasons I ended up supporting Bush was because of the NRA and who he would pick for the Supreme Court. As for 2004, I won't know who I am going to support until I see who the Democrats nominate but one thing going through my mind is that if the Democrats do win in 2004, Hillary (the antichrist) won't be able to run until 2012. :)
 
Typhoon,
Did you just say that you were making statements without documenting them like Ann Coulter? I do not know if you have ever read one of here books but they are filled with documentaion throughout the entire book.
Glad to know that you do not think that Clinton was the best president ever. The only reason why Clinton was so popular is because Regan set the economy perfectly for him. Clinton took advantage of this and rode the bubble that Regan created. Then he popped it at the end of his Presidency so that Bush could not be credited with it.
To call Bush a disaster of a president right now is not fair. Is he? Maybe, but only history will tell. Maybe he has prevented us for many terrorists attacks, maybe he hasnt. Maybe the economy will turn around because of his policies, maybe it wont. My point is that you can never tell how successful a president was untill he is long out of office. Do you think that Lincoln was very popular while he was still in office, he split the country in two and had Americans killing other Americans (If you can call slave owners Americans).
 
siucavflight said:
Did you just say that you were making statements without documenting them like Ann Coulter? I do not know if you have ever read one of here books but they are filled with documentaion throughout the entire book.
Yeah but if you look carefully, her end notes often have little or nothing whatsoever to do with the "fact" she's put forward.

Ann is one of those conservative collumnists who claims to want to "raise the bar" of political discourse, then writes a book that is basically a lot of virulent ranting and raving. She lost me when she called Chelsea Clinton "ugly." And let's face it, Chelsea is no Anna K., but she didn't ask to have a a very bright spotlight on her from age 11...

...wait a minute! Why am I having to defend my opinion of Ann Coulter the anyone? She makes Rush look like a serious journalist!
 
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Have a nice day and thanks for protecting my freedom to criticize you.

Any time, bro! :)

I love these threads. It really brings out the 'passion' many of us have for social and political issues. Of course they usually wind up in a lot of name-calling and finger-pointing, but it's largely hillarious and often quite informative.

Anyone seen Timebuilder? Did I miss his post? He's usually here by now with his Liberal-to-Conservative 'testamony'.

Minh

"Join the Commies for Mommy"
 
"The problem with the world is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell.

"The future of politics won't be a battle so much between liberal and conservative as it will be a battle between moderate and extremist." - Jon Stewart.

"Can't we all just get along." - Rodney King.

'I'm not going to be the first President to lose a war."
- LB Johnson, 1967
- Richard Nixon, 1972

"Give us six months, and if we haven't ended the war by then, you can come back and tear down the White House fence."
- Henry Kissinger to a group of Quakers, March 1969
 
Typhoon Said:

"Here's the difference between you and me: I love our country the way an adult loves his mother...with great caring and support, but knowing that they haven't always been right (eg. slavery, Indian affairs, U.S.S. Maine, Korea, Chile and Pinochet, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, the environment, etc, etc.). You and the other FoxNews conservatives love our country the way a four year old loves his mother: mommy is good, everything she does is good, and anyone who says otherwise is bad."

Oh, I get it, you are an individual and conservatives are one big group that all think the same. I can inderstand that, simple minds generally have to force complex and varied things into large, homogenous groups in order to not challenge their simplistic and illogical worldview.
 
Bart,
I think that it is much more simple than that, judging by some of typoons other posts he thinks that he is always right and everyone else is just stupid.
 
Typhoon1244 said:
Here's the difference between you and me: I love our country the way an adult loves his mother...
Sorry, Typhoon1244 - judging by this comment, I'd have to say you're not the moderate you claim to be, but a liberal.

Liberals believe the country/government is superior to the individual and individual rights.

Conservatives think the country is made up of individuals, dominated by indiciduals rights, with the country possessing no such superior attributes.

In my eyes, this country *is me*.

Okay, I've had it with politics for a while. Discussions like this are like masterbation...without the big payoff at the end. [/B]
Two things here: 1. The picture you're painting isn't one I care to visit, 2. You sound like you're quoting Clinton's Surgeon General, Joyclyn "safer handgun bullets" Elders.
 
Liberals believe the country/government is superior to the individual and individual rights.

What?! :eek:

You must be looking at a different encyclopedia than I have.

Minh
 
bart[/i] [B]...simple minds generally have to force complex and varied things into large said:
...judging by some of Typoons other posts he thinks that he is always right and everyone else is just stupid.
...and all this because I have the nerve...the nerve!...to dislike the President of our country. All this because I refuse to be duped into believing that George W. Bush is a "Great Leader." Don't try and understand me. Don't even listen to me! It's easier to malign my character, discredit me, and move on.

Well done.
 
Typhoon,

all of those statements were made based on all of your postings, not just those stating your dislike of the current administration.

You poor pathetic simpleton. Again, lump it all into one big pile so you can fathom the meaning.

Maybe one day you will figure it out...
 
bart said:
You poor pathetic simpleton. Again, lump it all into one big pile so you can fathom the meaning. Maybe one day you will figure it out...
It would be impressive to see how well you could debate an issue if you didn't have to resort to insults and name-calling. Maybe that's the best you can do...

I've noticed you haven't even attempted to refute the most important issue I raised in this entire thread. It was easier for you to call me pathetic...that relieved you of the responsibility of thinking. Again, well done!

(Let me know if you can't figure it out...I'll give you a hint.)
 

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