Brian Wilson Endorses The ASA Coalition!

[Copydat]

In regards to Skip and his expert testimony on sleep deprivation I suppose his testimony was not good enough. I belive we both agree that ALPA should have won. The contract and common sense were on our side. Next time we need a broader range of rebutttal witnesses. Even if those witnesses are at odds with ALPA leaders. Just like ASAP, please put the welfare of the pilot group ahead of personal issues.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

Better get the word out...

If you hear one or two people complain about someone, you can usually chalk it up to personal differences. But when I hear as many negatives as I've heard about the two captains of the "Fab Four", I've heard enough. I would vote for anyone but those two.

Here's the issue... newer pilots who don't know any better and who might not follow this board will read what the Four put in their mailbox and think "Sounds good to me, I'll vote for 'em," not knowing who they're really voting for.

Unless someone gets the word out to the newer guys that a couple of dirtbags are attempting to sneak their way in to sabotage the Union and hand it over to management, they just might succeed.

 

[www.]

Well www. I appreciate your response and views. You say you do not understand why we should focus on ourselves instead of our opponent (point 3). I say this because you state my issue should be with the company and their integrity to be truthful. I was making the point that we can not control the company and therefore should focus on the things we can control. Recently a new member has joined the grievance committee. He is a former lawyer and is making a change in the way we argue grievances. He is also taking a realistic view on what constitutes a grievance. I see this as a positive move. Regretfully, ALPA found itself on the short end of the 3 CDO hearing. Blaming the company at that point is like blaming Johnnie Cochran for Nicole Simpson's murder. We should insist on better defenses next time. There are other grievances that have been lost which should have been won. There are tons that should be dropped to free up the docket. Ask a member of the committe why ALPA is currently defending a WORLD FO who failed a checkride here. The details are crazy. You hear guys say "grieve it" as if that punishes the company. In reality a frivilous grievance punishes the pilot with a valid grievance. There is only so much manpower to go around.

Before you put so much in something you know very little about, check your facts. I stepped down from the postion your speaking of. I did not just file any old grievances. Once again, you know very little of the big picture when it comes to the past. If you had a problem with the way I did my job, come see me.

 

[www.]

In regards to Skip and his expert testimony on sleep deprivation I suppose his testimony was not good enough. I belive we both agree that ALPA should have won. The contract and common sense were on our side. Next time we need a broader range of rebutttal witnesses. Even if those witnesses are at odds with ALPA leaders. Just like ASAP, please put the welfare of the pilot group ahead of personal issues.

And the last time you gave up your free time for ALPA work was when????

All mouth and no brains.

 

[FightingIrish]

If you hear one or two people complain about someone, you can usually chalk it up to personal differences. But when I hear as many negatives as I've heard about the two captains of the "Fab Four", I've heard enough. I would vote for anyone but those two.

Here's the issue... newer pilots who don't know any better and who might not follow this board will read what the Four put in their mailbox and think "Sounds good to me, I'll vote for 'em," not knowing who they're really voting for.

Unless someone gets the word out to the newer guys that a couple of dirtbags are attempting to sneak their way in to sabotage the Union and hand it over to management, they just might succeed.

OK I'll bite. I disagree with your assessment of these two captains. What is the other side offering? I don't know if the fab 4 can pull off what they claim, but at least they have a plan. I don't hear any plan from the other side other that status quo. Status quo isn't acceptable to many of us.

Even if the fab 4 wins, the current MEC has until March to get this done. If they can't do it in 4.5 years, then maybe it is time for a change.

 

[Copydat]

I realize that many people do not like Lynn but I thought the other three were well liked. Are you saying that you have seen negative info on the other captain candidate? Remember, they are running as a group but you vote for the individuals. Just don't vote for Lynn and give the others a fair look if you don't like Lynn. Surely everyone must agree that maybe a "little" change would be nice. Otherwise we could let Newie and Faruzzi hold all of the offices.

 

[Copydat]

And the last time you gave up your free time for ALPA work was when????

All mouth and no brains.

I love the way the last resort is name calling. Desperation is ugly.

 

[FightingIrish]

I love the way the last resort is name calling. Desperation is ugly.

Notice how the ALPA status quo group usually results to name calling and personal attacks? These are your current leaders - maybe just maybe that is part of our problem.

 

[www.]

I love the way the last resort is name calling. Desperation is ugly.

There was no name used, just a description.

 

[www.]

Notice how the ALPA status quo group usually results to name calling and personal attacks? These are your current leaders - maybe just maybe that is part of our problem.

I am not a "current leader" nor am I a former leader. I'm just a guy that has been able to find a way to help approx 10 pilots save their jobs over the last 15 years.

 

[FightingIrish]

There was no name used, just a description.

You said copydat was "all mouth and no brains". Now you say that is just a description even though you don't know him. You also say you stepped down from the grievance committee. It scares me to think that someone like you is actually involved in ASA ALPA and tells me that we need a change. By the way, why did you step down?

 

[www.]

You said copydat was "all mouth and no brains". Now you say that is just a description even though you don't know him. You also say you stepped down from the grievance committee. It scares me to think that someone like you is actually involved in ASA ALPA and tells me that we need a change. By the way, why did you step down?

Mr Copydat has no idea of what he is talking about.

I stepped down from other positions also.

There was a "difference of opinion" with the former MEC Chairman.

 

[Copydat]

www.,

I said earlier that I respected your views. Obviously you would rather lash out at me than defend those views. If you are satisfied with the loss of the CDO grievance than we have nothing else to discuss.

 

[www.]

www.,

I said earlier that I respected your views. Obviously you would rather lash out at me than defend those views. If you are satisfied with the loss of the CDO grievance than we have nothing else to discuss.

sent you a PM

 

[scott hall]

sent you a PM

more like a PMS.

hahahahaha