Kiss my @$$ you condescending fool!!! I was once a Beech FO then a Captain, and now a Saab Captian with more than 6 years with this company. That Beech FO probably knows more about the industry than you do. Works harder too! I bet you would never consider buying him lunch to explain your position. Prick!
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Kiss my @$$ you condescending fool!!! I was once a Beech FO then a Captain, and now a Saab Captian with more than 6 years with this company. That Beech FO probably knows more about the industry than you do. Works harder too! I bet you would never consider buying him lunch to explain your position. Prick!
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You know, you are right. Save the 49% who voted yes (and they shouldn't be discounted because there are some good people in there) we have really screwed the pooch on this one.
All of you out there who didn't vote, especially the ones that were not totally against a union.
You are hereby put on NOTICE:
There had better not be ANY bitching coming out of your mouth once everyone starts giving us the old IN-OUT, IN-OUT. I do mean everyone, from the PCL MEC to Management to the new hotel booking company. YOU have caused this to happen because you are SPINELESS!
I'm SURE if asked you all voted yes and you CAN'T understand why this thing didn't pass* a note of sarcasm added.
Hey Colgan folks. I think it's about time to vote with our feet.
CCCCCEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAA
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I think we established the other day - that guy is an idiot. And I don't like the real W either!
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Pay no mind to this numb nut. He is a management stooge.
Funny thing is he has no problem going to an ALPA carrier though. Imagine that....
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Well I was for the Union and it sucks that we won't have the backing of ALPA but now we have to call the management on there bluff about how given the chance they would make our life better. I forget most of the stuff they said they would do but I remember they said somthing about uniform allowance.
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They can shove that uniform allowance! I WANT WORK RULES!!!!!
don't worry, EVERYONE voted for ALPA. Just ask them. EVERYONE will say they voted yes. All the no-votes are from somewhere else. Just ask them.
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I know what I'm gonna do. Get my resume polished up and fresh tube of KY, and hope one gets used before the one before the other.........our new Committee....for the love of everything sacred....You might as well have the EASTER BUNNY for representation!!! Who's holding the tail up now on this goat screw....PCL managment.... GET READY!!!
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They did try! Thanks to ALL the pilots from ALL the airlines who had our backs on this. We received industry wide support and I want to thank everyone for it!
364 days until the next CJC ALPA drive
(unless we are at the bottom of PCL's senority list before then, and then we will be ALPA anyway)
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Maybe next time around you guys can try the teamsters...
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This lose here at Colgan just goes to show why this industry sucks so bad. A bunch of spineless liars running around useing anyone and anything to climb to the stop, even selling out the pilot sitting next to them. And then these bastards become managment and countinue to beat us down. What can I, us OC peps tried, and you ignorant bags of poop just slammed the door shut on any chance we had to be heard.
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Our contract was ratified 9-13-2001. I've been getting a raise every year.
Oh yeah, our senior turboprop folks make six figures.
Thanks Mr Hoffa.
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Really thought it would pass, can't believe the pilots would think that voting for Alpa is the wrong way to go.
ALPA, although they suck in so many ways is better then nothing. The thought of some changes gave allot of us hope in some improvements long overdue.
I guess we will all see if the Colgan's looking at at 50% unsatisfactory rate will come up with something for the pilots who backed them...work rules and some industry standard rates on the q400 would be nice.
the ball is back in there court for the next year if the screw it up, next years vote is just 12 months away and I'm sure that people will be less sympathetic if they don't play nice in the sandbox.
disappointed but hopeful
ALPA, although they suck in so many ways is better then nothing. The thought of some changes gave allot of us hope in some improvements long overdue.
I guess we will all see if the Colgan's looking at at 50% unsatisfactory rate will come up with something for the pilots who backed them...work rules and some industry standard rates on the q400 would be nice.
the ball is back in there court for the next year if the screw it up, next years vote is just 12 months away and I'm sure that people will be less sympathetic if they don't play nice in the sandbox.
disappointed but hopeful
better up here
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I used to fly for Colgan and I can tell you exactly why it failed
Because you have many senior guys who kiss management's as* and scheduling's as* and demand to be treated like God's gift to aviation (you know some of the people I'm talking about) . . . and they know very well that not everything runs on a perfectly honest seniority basis. If a union comes in that will give more rights to your most junior people, all "favors" given to more senior guys would dissappear. They've got their nitche: they build lines for the guys for crying out loud! The senior capt's want to take advantage of a company that barely honors seniority system so they can get what they want and a union would threaten that.
Because you have many senior guys who kiss management's as* and scheduling's as* and demand to be treated like God's gift to aviation (you know some of the people I'm talking about) . . . and they know very well that not everything runs on a perfectly honest seniority basis. If a union comes in that will give more rights to your most junior people, all "favors" given to more senior guys would dissappear. They've got their nitche: they build lines for the guys for crying out loud! The senior capt's want to take advantage of a company that barely honors seniority system so they can get what they want and a union would threaten that.
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