Bloomberg says LCC and AMR

[Captain X]

Row vs. Wade?

What Would Sully Do?

Ditch the b!@ch.

 

[eaglesview]

Well, it makes sense on a couple of levels:

1. Gives LAACC the mass to compete with NWDAAL and UACALL.
2. Combines the AWA/APA pilot groups to put USAPA out to pasture.

If they were to merge I believe you are wrong. The AA pilots would definatly support a DOH position. Look at there longevity vs AWA. This number will increase if AA suffers a loos of flying and furloughs.

 

[TWA Dude]

The APA will try to do whatever is best for the AA pilots, regardless.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Veritas! TWA.

 

[eaglesview]

The APA will try to do whatever is best for the AA pilots, regardless.

You are absolutly correct. Just like USAPA did.

 

[Guppiedriver]

If they were to merge I believe you are wrong. The AA pilots would definatly support a DOH position. Look at there longevity vs AWA. This number will increase if AA suffers a loos of flying and furloughs.

How did that work out for the easties? I don't give a rats azz what the other side supports. If it is not a reasonable solution, it will not be considered.

 

[Flopgut]

The AA pilots would definatly support a DOH position.

Whoa there fella. Have you been actually paying attention to how the APA does business? The only thing they will "definitly" do is look out for their own pilots.

Doug is already too late. He got beat out at DAL and it looks like he's got his pants down now. AMR/APA will be the surviving airline/union and I doubt they are going to be at a sufficient enough contractual disadvantage that they would have to surrender anything to USAPA.

 

[Taco Rocket]

No merger.

I think the whole point of declaring with over 4 billion in cash was to avoid a merger "partner."

They are doing their bankruptcy Mesa style -- self financed. They aren't broke: they are just using the law to screw their suppliers and employees. Like Mesa, somebody will do business with them again, and lend them money -- probably GE Capital. And of course I can't wait for mgt to issue themselves a cut of the new preferred shares, just like Mesa... hell, J.O. should consult...

 

[Hpilot]

Won't be a windfall for anybody, Heaven forbid this merger should come to pass.

And for the record, I support binding arbitration and unlike some I can live with the result, come what may.

Agreed. Goes to arbitration and we ACCEPT the outcome even it it doesn't staple the American pilots below us.

 

[aa73]

APA didn't staple the TWA pilots. If that had been the case I wouldn't have been furloughed with 700 TWA pilots still flying AA metal.

It wasn't pretty for the TWA pilots but saying it was a staple is completely inaccurate.

Ummm... you may want to check your facts.

Approx. 1200 pilots got stapled and approx 900 got integrated at 1:8. You just happened to have been hired after the last TWA stapled pilot.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Ummm... you may want to check your facts.

Approx. 1200 pilots got stapled and approx 900 got integrated at 1:8. You just happened to have been hired after the last TWA stapled pilot.

Check my facts? You are basically agreeing with me with only one glaring error. You ASSUME I was hired after the TWA acquisition when I was not. I was on AA property two months before the TWA acquisition was announced.

 

[Flopgut]

I knew what you were talking about Leroy. You got a bad deal too that the TWA guys either have forgot about or don't care.

 

[Metrojet]

Won't be a windfall for anybody, Heaven forbid this merger should come to pass.

And for the record, I support binding arbitration and unlike some I can live with the result, come what may.

TWA Dude -

Rather than agreeing or disagreeing with your post - I will just make an observation - if there is a merger with 3 pilot groups and 3 contracts - I will bet that in 5 years from now there will be over 2000 retirements - so all these people posting - many wont even be here for the long term

Metrojet

 

[TWA Dude]

You are absolutly correct. Just like USAPA did.

Actually, I'll have to agree with you here. In light of how the APA handled the TWA seniority integration one can only assume they'll have as little integrity as the USAir Easties. I still don't understand why you're an apologist for them.

 

[TWA Dude]

TWA Dude -

Rather than agreeing or disagreeing with your post - I will just make an observation - if there is a merger with 3 pilot groups and 3 contracts - I will bet that in 5 years from now there will be over 2000 retirements - so all these people posting - many wont even be here for the long term

George Nicolau was well aware of the forecast retirements at US Air yet he chose not to grant the East a windfall at the West's expense because of them. It's indicative of how SLI arbitrations are going now, focusing on the more certain short-term rather than the less certain long-term. So your bet is moot.