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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51794643-79/skywest-company-rich-atkin.html.csp

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9N5D5SO0.htm

Both of these articles say the position of President at the corporate (Inc) level was vacated after the ASA aquisition, with the position recreated for Brad Rich last year. It doesn't sound at all as if Atkin was stripped of the title en route to a Board-mandated merger as it seems you are suggesting. It is entirely possible that a combination is in the future (though I highly doubt it), but I don't think the corporate management restructuring was necessarily related to such a strategy.

I'm not certain how long Mr. Atkin held on to both positions (Pres. and CEO). However position as President changed after the acquisition of XJT. I have no insider information, but it's interesting that it happened after Skywest Inc lost money after making profitable qtrs for umpteen many years in a row. Not to say the article was wrong, Inc has their own reasons for doing what they're doing, but the timing of such a move suggests otherwise.
 
I'm not certain how long Mr. Atkin held on to both positions (Pres. and CEO). However position as President changed after the acquisition of XJT. I have no insider information, but it's interesting that it happened after Skywest Inc lost money after making profitable qtrs for umpteen many years in a row. Not to say the article was wrong, Inc has their own reasons for doing what they're doing, but the timing of such a move suggests otherwise.

Sure, it means JA is 66 years old and might like to enjoy himself.
 
Tell me, if Mr. Atkin is so hell bent on keeping things separate, why then did he arrange a meeting with SAPA, ASA and XJT? He also brought Brad Rich. Intriguing.

Management 101 - Always make the employee group feel like there's hope
 
I think the board has seen enough from every other unionized airline out there to agree with Jerry and the gang that you all remain seperate. Can't put it any simpler.

What does SWA, UPS, and FDX have in common? And I'm not talking about the fact that they all have multiple unionized employee groups.

You still are not getting it. These decisions go way above union vs non-union. That is all I'm saying.
 
Usually I am in agreement with XPOO. But not this time. I think SkyWest management has matured way beyond the primitive response of UNION BAD BAD BAD. I believe that management realizes that union contracts are just that...contracts. They have had seven years experience dealing with unions through ASA then ExpressJet. SkyWest can handle that...just like any other major airline.

I believe that there will be a merger between SkyWest and ExpressJet. By diluting a number of militant labor groups with the nonunion labor of SkyWest...INC will be able to negotiate the outcome they wish in the pending labor contracts.

SkyWest has probably grown as much as possible organically....now is the time to grow via merger.

Southwest has already done it several times....and their treasured culture remains intact.

Plus SkyWest will gain enormous savings from departmental consolidation.

Yes, another merger is on the way.....
 
As long as the Atkin family maintains complete control of the company, its all just a pipe dream. SkyWest Airlines is their baby and they will not allow you to taint what they've spent 40 years creating.

Are you sure about that?

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What does SWA, UPS, and FDX have in common? And I'm not talking about the fact that they all have multiple unionized employee groups.

You still are not getting it. These decisions go way above union vs non-union. That is all I'm saying.

I'm talking about regionals. We aren't a major mainline carrier.
 
Usually I am in agreement with XPOO. But not this time. I think SkyWest management has matured way beyond the primitive response of UNION BAD BAD BAD. I believe that management realizes that union contracts are just that...contracts. They have had seven years experience dealing with unions through ASA then ExpressJet. SkyWest can handle that...just like any other major airline.

I believe that there will be a merger between SkyWest and ExpressJet. By diluting a number of militant labor groups with the nonunion labor of SkyWest...INC will be able to negotiate the outcome they wish in the pending labor contracts.

SkyWest has probably grown as much as possible organically....now is the time to grow via merger.

Southwest has already done it several times....and their treasured culture remains intact.

Plus SkyWest will gain enormous savings from departmental consolidation.

Yes, another merger is on the way.....

SkyWest Inc. will sell off or shrink ExpressJet long before it is ever merged with SkyWest Airlines. It's been 7 years, and 7 years from now it will still be the same story.
 
I'm talking about regionals. We aren't a major mainline carrier.

You are talking about unions. Regional and mainline is irrelevant in my point. But you still don't get the correlation. I'm sorry.
 
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Yes, it was a big meeting of confused, befuddled, and directionless individuals. They signed a meaningless document, agreeing that they have no idea what the hell will happen next...
 
Yes, it was a big meeting of confused, befuddled, and directionless individuals. They signed a meaningless document, agreeing that they have no idea what the hell will happen next...

The most brilliant summation of events yet! With the top leadership there, it was nothing more than a fancy way of letting the pilot groups know, on all sides, that we cost too much.

With Skywest Inc. buying up quite a bit of stock, I'm expecting another aquisition and merger. That's what happened last time, just before Inc. bought ExpressJet. Whether it's Pinnicle, Eagle, or someone like Spirit or Virgin America, nobody knows but management. However, something is happening and a plan is in place. Only question is "when" it's going to happen. Spirit or Virgin would explain the 100 seaters we have on the horizon. I believe they are working out "Jet Blue", volume II.
 

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