Astar Cargo Help PLEASE!!!!!

[hvydriver]

Just curious, but with all these great improvements you guys got with the new CBA which will surely drive costs up and with DHL hemorraging cash right now, are you not even the slightest bit curious as to why the sudden change of heart from Daz and Germany???

Nope.

 

[Jurassic Jet]

Nope.

I seeeee.....because your callsign is DHL right?

 

[fob727]

Just curious, but with all these great improvements you guys got with the new CBA which will surely drive costs up and with DHL hemorraging cash right now, are you not even the slightest bit curious as to why the sudden change of heart from Daz and Germany???

not being one to post on any boards... at least DHL knows what our costs will be for FOUR years. Can ABXA say the same?

mine is little, so I'm outta this contest!

Don't come to work at either place, both sides of the fence suck

 

[Jurassic Jet]

at least DHL knows what our costs will be for FOUR years. Can ABXA say the same?

To a reasonable extent somewhat maybe...there isn't that clear?!!?

The big variable on costs to DHL right now is how many Astar recovery flights each week they have to pay us to do.

Keep 'em comin. That was to easy. I'll be here all week.

(Man, I musta woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. :laugh: )

Lord I apologize and please be with the starving pygmies down in New Guinea.

 

[hvydriver]

I seeeee.....because your callsign is DHL right?

And again, nope. We just don't think it's any of your business. Seeing as how we've been such good buddies for so long now.

 

[fob727]

not me, I'm going to Disneyland

 

[Jurassic Jet]

We just don't think it's any of your business.

Fair enough. The mothership has filled you in on the master plan and it is all good. So should I send out resumes now or hang on for a few months?

 

[fob727]

Hang for a while! That's what we're doing. Send me a copy of your resume..might need a few ideas for improvemening mine

 

[fob727]

that's right....improvmening!

 

[fodc8]

The big variable on costs to DHL right now is how many Astar recovery flights each week they have to pay us to do.

Keep 'em comin. That was to easy. I'll be here all week.

You know before you post information about recovery flights. You need to get your facts straight. Both airlines recover the other. I just called a friend in AOC to find out how many flights ABX recovers for us and he said very few. They post all of the information on the intranet. I'll try to copy it here so we know the facts.

 

[Chubaka]

I just have one question. Why can't we all just get along?

 

[Jurassic Jet]

I just called a friend in AOC to find out how many flights ABX recovers for us and he said very few.

Isn't that kinda like asking a waiter in a restaurant if a particular dish is good or not? My wife does that all the time and I have yet to hear one say, no stay away from that, that tastes like a skunks butt.

 

[hvydriver]

You know before you post information about recovery flights. You need to get your facts straight. Both airlines recover the other. I just called a friend in AOC to find out how many flights ABX recovers for us and he said very few. They post all of the information on the intranet. I'll try to copy it here so we know the facts.

Now fo, you know full good and well that we aren't worthy to shine their shoes. Why bother? Never cloud the issues with facts. Just be sure you remove anything that could show it's an official document. You don't want to get in trouble over this dribble.

 

[fob727]

To be honest JJ, I don't care about call signs, CATII, your uniform color or mine, or the yahoo message board. I want a paycheck for the next 11 years.

 

[Clipperskip]

off the taxiway?

I guess it was good enough to land but not taxi , apparently two DC9's taxiied off the runway into the mud, Its not Astar pilots fault for not being cat II just like its not Abx pilots fault for having the majority of their fleet C container

OK, I'll bite on this one. I flew inbound to ILN last night and heard nothing about any A/C taxiing off the paved surfaces. Not that it wasn't a definite possibility. Where did it happen? Was it early or late? Was there damage to an A/C? Additionally I agree...It isn't the Astar pilot's fault that they are not CAT II/IIIB anymore than it's the ABX pilot's fault that the majority of their A/C have small doors. Both of these items are the responsibility of DHL and the Flight Management of ER and GB.

 

[rotor&wing]

Both of these items are the responsibility of DHL and the Flight Management of ER and GB.

Exactly!

 

[abxdx]

I would really like to see that link. I think you have it backwards. Astar recovers very few flights for ABX. I saw a report on it sometime back but cannot remember the actual numbers. I do remember that we recovered wat more Astar flights then they did for us. Just off memory I think Astar recovered a number in the single digits whereas ABX recovered for Astar was well,well into double digits, 20 to 30 maybe, but again do not have an exact number...
When your AOC guy said very few he was probably talking about each night...

You know before you post information about recovery flights. You need to get your facts straight. Both airlines recover the other. I just called a friend in AOC to find out how many flights ABX recovers for us and he said very few. They post all of the information on the intranet. I'll try to copy it here so we know the facts.

 

[rotor&wing]

I thought this thread was about hiring at Astar?

 

[hvydriver]

I thought this thread was about hiring at Astar?

No, no... It's about how cool ABX is, and how Astar is god awful.

 

[erichartmann]

No, no... It's about how cool ABX is, and how Astar is god awful.

Awwww the poor putty tat has his knickers in a knot.

 

[erichartmann]

I thought this thread was about hiring at Astar?

In lefthanded ackbasswards sort of way it is.

 

[hvydriver]

In lefthanded ackbasswards sort of way it is.

Now, that's funny!

 

[shooter]

Hey abxnightrider, your avatar is creeping me out.

 

[Fly Astar Jets]

This nugget lost in the shuffle

Just curious, but with all these great improvements you guys got with the new CBA which will surely drive costs up and with DHL hemorraging cash right now, are you not even the slightest bit curious as to why the sudden change of heart from Daz and Germany???

There it is folks. Straight from JJ's key board to our screens. 1224 is worried about cost to DHL.

So what's it going to be for you guys and gals JJ? Concessionary across the board or just cost neutral. Tell us how 1224 is gonna take one for the team and save DHL money with your contract.

Hey, I'm just ask'en cause you made that little Freudian slip/crack above.

FAJ

 

[yellow727]

Fair enough. The mothership has filled you in on the master plan and it is all good. So should I send out resumes now or hang on for a few months?

We're hiring. Would you like me to carry your resume in? Any 727 FE experience? Just think, then you too could use the DHL callsign.

 

[Jurassic Jet]

There it is folks. Straight from JJ's key board to our screens. 1224 is worried about cost to DHL.

So what's it going to be for you guys and gals JJ? Concessionary across the board or just cost neutral. Tell us how 1224 is gonna take one for the team and save DHL money with your contract.

Hey, I'm just ask'en cause you made that little Freudian slip/crack above.

FAJ

Funny FAJ, I re-read that post a couple times and did not find anywhere in it where I expressed and ongoing concern for DHL's costs nor did I indicate anything along the lines of what you infer.

I think if you look closely, you will see simply that all I did was state a fact, that DHL is hemorrhaging cash.

I just am more than a little curious as to what the rush was and the sudden change of heart. I know I would be if I were in your shoes. Of course as hvydriver so eloquently put it, you guys are obviously in the loop from the mothership and sitting pretty. Us pigfarmers, well we may not belong to that wonderful ALPA outfit or dress as nice as ya'll, but we still have mouths to feed and are more than a little irked to potentially see big job losses.

Was it the fact they wanted it done before ya'll found out how much money Daz made on the sale?

Could it be that they really don't care what they signed if they are not planning on having to deal with that contract much longer?

I was particullary enthralled with the boasting of a poster in some other thread that "DHL themselves signed off on the scope". How did that work out for you last time? Think it will be different this time?

Re-read it for yourself again. I don't think you will find any concern in my post. I for the most part am happy with the majority of our contract. I am especially happy with our payscales compared to yours. I want some areas cleaned up obviously in order to be brought to parity with the preimminent DHL carrier such as furloughs, junior manning, etc. Could give a rats butt about about paid hotel rooms in a city that I am domiciled in anyways. Please.

All that said, I do expect a fair raise and full retro. No signing bonuses here.

I am concerned about the future of this place obviously. However, we (pilots) are a fraction of the cost of doing business. If they can't afford to compensate us fairly then maybe they really should rethink the whole operation.

 

[Jurassic Jet]

We're hiring. Would you like me to carry your resume in? Any 727 FE experience? Just think, then you too could use the DHL callsign.

Cold day in you know where. I've sat sideways for the last time pal. :uzi:

Besides, I don't think I could wait another 9 or 10 years to utter that callsign.

Sorry, but man I feel for those peeps in the back. That is just wrong.

 

[fob727]

JJ, on a lighter note. where did you get the picture of those t*ts?

 

[Jurassic Jet]

JJ, on a lighter note. where did you get the picture of those t*ts?

Heh heh heh....those are nice aren't they? imp:

Don't actually recall where I found that. Got a couple other nice ones I should rotate through every once in a while.

 

[nitefr8dog]

You know before you post information about recovery flights. You need to get your facts straight. Both airlines recover the other. I just called a friend in AOC to find out how many flights ABX recovers for us and he said very few. They post all of the information on the intranet. I'll try to copy it here so we know the facts.

Just to throw my 2 cents in at my last B.U. during grd. school Phil from maintence came to talk to us about anything going on in maint. I asked him that very question. He said year to date ABX had recovered 96 flights for Astar. Astar had recoverd 4 for Abx. None of these where due to WX. The flights ABX flys to airports for Astar that are CatII are in addition to these. He said they due a 3 way call every morning with DP. ABX Astar about every delay or recovery. Which is why I do not believe DP is interesed in saving money!