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I like the idea of sick out, but it will not work. We we NEED to do is write up every legitimate write-up on the plane. If management seeks some type of action against the pilots, tell them you'll call the FAA. I don't care if you haven't written up anything in the last 6 months. If it's a valid write-up, nothing can be done to you. There is always something to write-up. Rememer that. This is what settled the contract in 98, and also what settled Netjets last contract as well. BTW, the captains there got 10,000 per year of negotiations of retro pay. That's 40,000$ for the captains.
 
:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:
Again, if there is a mass pilot walkout on the 19th.....

First of all, you picked the wrong day. The busiest travel day of the year is the day before Thanksgiving. People don't get the whole week off for Thanksgiving, dumbass.

Second of all, ASA will seek disciplinary action. They will petition the courts to subpoena this website. They will find out who you are. Don't be stupid. Look no further than the Delta open time debacle. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for action, but it must be within the limits of the RLA. I know, it sucks, but that's the way it is. That's the way it was when you signed up to play the game, so don't turn around and bitch 5 years later that the green monster is too high or that the college football overtime rules suck. (I know, weak analogies at best....) You want to take action? Start flying by the book and let the inherent weaknesses in the system work for you. A wildcat sickout helps nobody and it does very little to prove your point. What are you going to do? Walk into the bathroom and scribble something on the stalls about how you walked out to prove your point? Very effective. At best, you'll get 5% of the pilots to walk out with you, and we have more than enough reserves to cover that. Hell, they have more pilots call in sick when Jimmy Buffett comes to town.

Bottom line, like I said before, do what you want. When I tell you this is ill-advised, I'm just trying to look out for you. You really don't want to be sitting there with a big-ass target on your back when ASA's management starts another witch hunt. Believe me, I've seen it.

The only thing a sick out will do is give the schedulers a bad day. I'll admit that, in and of itself, is an admirable goal, but is that really what you hope to achieve???

You say ALPA has nothing to do with it. What does that matter? Illegal is illegal, regardless of union involvement. If you really want to get down to brass tacks, calling in sick when you're not sick is fraud. Do it as a commuter from another state and it might be interpreted as a federal crime. ALPA has nothing to do with it, but it will be the ALPA volunteers that you so readily scoff at that will spend their unpaid time trying to beg, borrow, or steal your job back after you get caught and come crying to the union that you so readily crucify, screaming, "Greivance, greivance, greivance..."

Wanna call in sick on the 19th? Go right ahead. I guarantee you the company will be asking for a doctor's note. It's their right to do so. If you manage to convince enough idiots to call in sick with you, every pilot here will be expected to produce a doctor's note for every sick call.

Tell me again... who, exactly, are you hurting here????

You are the one mentioning alpa every time. Also you mention "wildcats". Like alpa going to do something. With your card number and local ---". Oh, lets have a bowling league with all the other locals :laugh: . They control and effect nothing. If they did have clout, I wouldn't be writing this 4 yrs+ later?(~1,500 DAYS) or at all (see no threat). Just dues.

We'll do it in days.

Never said it was a sick day. Call it what ever.

This day is the start of it. This is the time to do it. NOW!!!

The mother will be telling the 2 children to clean it up.

:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:
 
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:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:

You are the one mentioning alpa every time. Also you mention "wildcats". Like alpa going to do something. With your card number and local ---". Oh, lets have a bowling league with all the other locals :laugh: . They control and effect nothing. If they did have clout, I wouldn't be writing this 4 yrs+ later?(~1,500 DAYS) or at all (see no threat). Just dues.

We'll do it in days.

Never said it was a sick day. Call it what ever.

This day is the start of it. This is the time to do it. NOW!!!

The mother will be telling the 2 children to clean it up.

:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:

You're an idiot. Have fun storming the castle.
 
:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:
 
:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:

Ladies and gentlemen, before you decide not to go to work on the 19th, please consider the possibility that ASALossPaywAlpa is a management individual attempting to bait pilots into doing something that can be followed up with discipline and also be taken the the NMB as evidence that the pilot group is not attempting to negotiate in good faith.

I have long suspected this guy to be management, and I wouldn't put it past our management to do something like this.
 
I wanted to post, but there is a helicopter hovering over my house.........looking for my screen name perhaps?......hmmmm
 

I wanted to post, but there is a helicopter hovering over my house.........looking for my screen name perhaps?......hmmmm
REJOICING

:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:
 
I will not take ANY pay cut ever!! I will gladly park ASA's airplanes in the desert than take any pay cut.

If you think your future is at Skypest then fly away. If not shut up and support your MEC!!

BuzzSaw
 
Yo, da rampah's do a slow down every day yo?

We gonna show da Man, know wha'm sayin?
 
I like the idea of sick out, but it will not work. We we NEED to do is write up every legitimate write-up on the plane. If management seeks some type of action against the pilots, tell them you'll call the FAA. I don't care if you haven't written up anything in the last 6 months. If it's a valid write-up, nothing can be done to you. There is always something to write-up. Rememer that. This is what settled the contract in 98, and also what settled Netjets last contract as well. BTW, the captains there got 10,000 per year of negotiations of retro pay. That's 40,000$ for the captains.

first off good luck with that retro pay...secondly..you guys shouldn't have to write up every detail on the plane..this industry is about customer service..ALPA should be taking care of your problems, not you inflicting damage on your company...everyone at ASA longer than 4-5 years has spent $4800 plus paying ALPA to do NOTHING! waste? I liked the other comment about just letting the ramp take care of those delays for you..with 40 airplanes and 5 gates.......and 1 ramper
 
Only about Freedom.

noun:
ex. liberty, permission, immunity, exemption, release.

verb:
ex. be free, have one's own way, have a will of one's own; do what one likes, wishes or chooses; take a liberty; make free with; take leave.




:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:
 
Question for ATR Pirate

ATR Pirate,

I'm a bit confused by your profile. Are you actually typed in both the ATR and the CL 65, as your "ratings" would have us believe? Also, have you actually already flown the CRJ900?

-Blucher:confused:
 
the numbers are 42 for the month of October only, didnt count back before that, and 31 of those were F/Os.

All I know is that when I quit I called in sick for the last 2 months to use up my sick time and vacation. They have so many people quitting that they never even called me after calling in for 2 months. When I finally sent my resignation in they never even called me then. 1 month after I resigned, still no call. Finally I called to see if they wanted my SIDA and compnay ID back. They said that they kind of forgot. When my buddy dropped off my jepps He said there were piles of them in the office. Haven't missed the job one bit. Miss my friends but not the job. I got out of flying completely and went back to school. I hope it all works out for everyone that had the patience to stay, I did not.

Good luck and don't ball it up
And someone tell Detty maybe he shouldn't be such a prick on check rides if he is going to be rolling around ripped, nice example sport, and all I have to say is KARMA.
 
:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:
 
first off good luck with that retro pay...secondly..you guys shouldn't have to write up every detail on the plane..this industry is about customer service..ALPA should be taking care of your problems, not you inflicting damage on your company...everyone at ASA longer than 4-5 years has spent $4800 plus paying ALPA to do NOTHING! waste? I liked the other comment about just letting the ramp take care of those delays for you..with 40 airplanes and 5 gates.......and 1 ramper

You are a moron! If you're not at ASA, why are you concerned what we do and don't do? You like to see your ramblings in word printed in flightinfo huh.

VOTED IN FAVOR!
 
I wanted to post, but there is a helicopter hovering over my house.........looking for my screen name perhaps?......hmmmm

Dude, that's just the sound of everyone's eyes popping out and going back into their heads after looking at that FINE LOOKING MAMA on your left. You have some great one's, but I still think that jehtplane has "The HOTTEST" avatar's!:eek:
 
:smash: Sunday 19th NOV 2006......Unofficial Official walkout!!!!!!:smash:

Ok, sick out. Shut your airline down. Bring your brothers and sisters down with you. Oh yeah, and you'll get a court date too. Then my airline and everyone elses can bid on Delta's new RFP out of ATL.
 
Bad labor issues aside, living in Atlanta sucks and Hartsfield sucks even harder... I cant believe anyone wants to put up with those ATL attitudes, all you gotta say to turn me away is ATL!
 
Bad labor issues aside, living in Atlanta sucks and Hartsfield sucks even harder... I cant believe anyone wants to put up with those ATL attitudes, all you gotta say to turn me away is ATL!


Now that is something I do truely agree with ATL as whole is a complete cess pool. Unless you are born there I cannot see why anyone would ever choose to live there. It is one of the dirtiest cities I have ever been to in my life.
 
Ok, sick out. Shut your airline down. Bring your brothers and sisters down with you. Oh yeah, and you'll get a court date too. Then my airline and everyone elses can bid on Delta's new RFP out of ATL.

Psst...Russian,

Read his screen name and notice the anti-Union tone. Then notice he tries to promote something that would obviously get the union in trouble.

Flaimbait.
 
Its starting to look like not only our assets (SLC 70's AND the crj900's that according to ALPA were not coming to us ANYWAY, yeah right)
This statement is HIGHLY inaccurate. ALPA Leadership never said that we were not going to receive the 900's. There position is that the decision to transfer those aircraft to Skywest was made solely on the fact that DELTA decided to place the aircraft in SLC as opposed to ATL. Since we no longer have a domocile there due to what the company said "was an unecessary overlap in bases", Skywest was the LOGICAL BUSINESS CHOICE. It had nothing to do with costs since according to data (which the MGMT denies be correct) ASA has cheaper opperating costs ACROSS THE BOARD!!

With respect to the 150-200 resignations in the last month...NO WAY...Look at the assignments, the line awards...this loss would not go unoticed by ANYONE!!
 
ASA good luck on your walk out. Fukc the Russian commie bastard. We at Horizon support you and your fight.

Now let me get back to my mocha frappacino.
 
With respect to our MEC and the claims that they are failing...I would like to say this...BE PATIENT A LITTLE LONGER!!

This process is much out of there control...if MGMT were to walk in and settle without there being any force or threat of a strike...this to me would be an indication that they failed....but to say that they are failing by simply not caving quickly...THAT IS LUDICROUS!!

They can't force the NMB to give us a proffer...they must work towards it...and for those of you who say.."why didn't they do this sooner?"...they can't ask for a proffer until the issues are narrowed to the point where the NMB would believe that they could be closed in the 30 day period. And they can't get to that point until the company cooperates to close the issues....

What I am saying is that the system favors the company...severely and in our present industry, the NMB has not put much pressure on them to get a deal done...BUT WE ARE GETTING CLOSE!! It isn't likely that they will give a proffer on this request..but, after the holidays are over, looking at january or feb, expect to see something then...and once the 30 day clock starts, make no mistake about it, the company will negotiate a deal before a strike!!

For those of you who are concerned that the union is asking for too much, you have to look at it in perspective...the perspective of where everyone else will be 8 years from now...NOT WHERE THEY ARE TODAY...THIS IS WHAT THE MEC IS DOING AND I TRUST THEY WILL COME UP WITH AN EQUITABLE DEAL!!
 
fl990 if alpas position is those 900 were going to be based in slc, then what about them coming here next month?

also - I have lived in atl for 9 years after 2 in dfw - i love atl, best prices in the us for any major city and a lot of fun. take it over dfw any day
 

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