ASA Employees JS!

[Airboss]

The Journey Guide contains questions or instructions that the team member will have to complete while at location that will ensure that the team member becomes aware of the position’s functions and their role with this function. These are the type of questions that you can expect:​

• Why are pilots so inflexible on pushback phraseology?
• Why is having an operable headset such a big deal for pushback?
• Why do call backs for fuel happen when all they want added is a couple of hundred pounds?
• Why do bag counts and CLRs have to be so exact? What could it possibly hurt to add a few bags after the paperwork is complete?
• What type of impact does parking an aircraft with a Wing Walker using only one wand have on a Pilot?
• Why can we haul more bags to New York than Chattanooga?
• Why does adding a jumpseat rider have such an effect on loading?
• What about hauling eyes, blood, or human organs in small packages in the cockpit?
• What is going on sometimes when there is such a long delay between tow bar disconnect and the signal releasing the crew?
• Why does the CRJ need three pieces of ground equipment when the APU is inoperative?
• Why is the CRJ 200 AC & DC external power, the CRJ 700 AC only, and the ATR both AC & DC?
• What problems are associated with a kinked air hose from a bottle or huffer?
• Why does the CRJ 200 usually park and taxi with the flaps extended?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Another brillant idea from ASA! G/O, gate agents, rampers etc can now ride the JS to "observe" what we go through? Like they even care to begin with. I'm not in too much of a cooperative mood right now being the company wants to pay me 8-10 dollars less than my peers. Can you say "silent treatment" when they come onboard? And, what if we have a pilot JSer? Who rides then?

STRIKE ASA!
The Company Does Not Pay Us What We're Worth!

IF you actually read the memo, it's only intended for ACS management personnel. Not rampers or gate agents. Don't shoot the idea down before you even hear the facts!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

They don't know the answers to the above questions?

Who trained them?

Are you surprised by this?

This sounds more like a fourth-grade field trip than an airline.

 

[wickedpilot]

[Originally posted byOakum_Boy]
They don't know the answers to the above questions? Apparently not. Have you ever heard an educated response from these folks when making requests on the ramp? I think that have a response card that goes like this:
1. Crew requests fuel - Response: "Copy dat"
2. Crew requests windshield cleaning - Response: "Roger that Acey ###"
3. Crew requests catering - Response: "Good Copy"
4. Crew has INOP APU - Response: "Good Copy, Good Copy"

Who trained them? Poor training/morale stems down from the top. read: BL.

Are you surprised by this? Yes, this is a f**king airline not Mickey D's.

This sounds more like a fourth-grade field trip than an airline. Well I was going to say 6th grade, but I'm still new and give everyone way to much credit.

 

[AMANSWORLD]

They don't know the answers to the above questions?

Who trained them?

Are you surprised by this?

This sounds more like a fourth-grade field trip than an airline.

It is fourth grade management. They need to be shutdown. Time for a little walkout.

 

[Old Crow]

People, Please... You complain about communication problems within the company, they do something to educate and you still complain. Take this as an opportunity to do your job professionally and pass on the shortcomings and successes to those who have the ability to make a difference.
I support any effort to educate our leaders about the problems we face and the real reason they are here. To Fly Airplanes. As you all know, managers tend to lose reality when the numbers are the only thing that matters.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Is it really the flight crews' job to educate the managers on why we need to have working headsets or why CLR accuracy is critical, or bags shouldn't be added with impunity?

 

[flyinhigh6165]

...um did you say the Rampers can sit up in the J/S....you got to be F*ucking kidding....guess those FFDO's might come in handy with some of these ghetto @$$ people. However, I do know that we do have a few rampers that are good hard working peeps...need more of them.

 

[AMANSWORLD]

Do not understand how FAR's can be changed to accommdate ASA ignorance. I thought only 121 approved-CASS pilots are allowed to occupy the seat. NO ONE that is not on CASS will ever touch my jumpseat. Period. As a matter of fact I believe a phone call to my state rep or senator is in line as well as the TSA. Huge security issue here folks.

 

[AMANSWORLD]

Does anyone else see this as a security issue as well as a safety issue?

 

[scott hall]

First, I would like to thank Joemerchant for his continuing support in showing how unreasonable ALPA's demands are. He is one of the best examples of the vision I have seen at this time. Joe, are you still coming over to dinner this weekend?

The Jumpseat program you are talking about is our new non-union company employee union pilot unreasonableness awareness program. In this program we program these employees such as rampers, gate agents, ect. with our view of the pilot contract negotiations so that they can attempt to influence the pilot group about how unreasonable they are being while on the jumpseat. We reviewed the possible consequences of having pilots get upset at these employees for sharing our vision and decided that it was not a safety factor. It is our hope that in doing this we can foster a more concessionary attitude from ALPA and achieve a much lower than the industry standard contract that allows me, I mean us to achieve our rediculously high pay bonus, I mean achieve a competitive cost structure, if we get the pilots to settle for our contract goals. Thanks to people like Joemerchant who believe in the vision. We are one step closer to my bonus, I mean our goals.

Thanks

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Do not understand how FAR's can be changed to accommdate ASA ignorance. I thought only 121 approved-CASS pilots are allowed to occupy the seat. NO ONE that is not on CASS will ever touch my jumpseat. Period. As a matter of fact I believe a phone call to my state rep or senator is in line as well as the TSA. Huge security issue here folks.

Then I suppose our dispatchers looking for their yearly flight deck observation time will be writing you up! Mgmt can occupy the jumpseat as long as they have approval from Tutt. About the only thing you can trust mgmt with is that they wont bend the rules on security. I would expect another letter soon with clarification as to who and how these managers can occupy out jumpseat.

 

[crjskipper]

relax mansworld - scott is the do and can auhorize anyone to ride the j/s. every letter he writes goes to the faa. every employee at asa has passed a background check and fbi check.

delta and asa own the j/s, not us. cass is an option avaiable when the seat is not being used. riddle interns have been riding the j/s for years. i think it/s a good idea.

 

[ASARJMan]

Is it really the flight crews' job to educate the managers on why we need to have working headsets or why CLR accuracy is critical, or bags shouldn't be added with impunity?

Nope. Just let 'em ride and enjoy the view. No contract no participation here.

STRIKE ASA!

 

[ASARJMan]

delta and asa own the j/s, not us.

PIC has the final say. And our FOs will have to use creative weight/CG calculations to keep 'em off! Nah, just kidding there. That would just get us in hot water. Hmm, what else...

STRIKE ASA!