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http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2009/07/13/asa_furloughs.html
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cessnamann
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What???? Are you really so niave to believe what you have just written? ASA pilots will take all the brunt of SKW's labor cost cutting because we are more expensive and Jerry doesn't want a union at oo. By the way, Jerry Atkin is our CEO. Brad Holt is the president of ASA, not the CEO. Get a clue!
Doesn't it bother you that oo operates to over 13 destinations from ATL and CVG while we continue to furlough? Go look at their route map.
PooPooPants
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Well that didn't take long...
PooPooPants
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Yes this bothers me tremendously, now what exactly can we do about this?
I'm up for anything at this point.
cessnamann
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Pick a new career.
In all seriousness, there is nothing we can do about it. SKW pilots would have to form a union and vote to merge lists. Why would they do that when it would mean a garunteed furlough for many if them? I sure wouldn't.
"if you vote a union in we're going to have to furlough. Here, have a pay cut."
- future SKW management quote.
Flybywire44
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Shut up you idiot. We have a contract, do your job. ASA does 80% of all DAL regional ops out of ATL. The cannot take us below that...
You have a contract, do your job.
cessnamann
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Why would SKW be opposed to transfering more ASA flying to the skywest side. So what if the Delta contract says ASA on it? That's not a contract with us, that's a contract with SKW Inc. In the end it is just more flying being transferee to the more efficient division in the same corperation. It's business. They already amended the contract once with the 2 for 1, they'll do it again.
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They can transfer all the flying they want, they just can't furlough anybody.
At some point, there will be a motivation for ASA to acquire more flying if Delta continues to reduce.
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Yes they can. The 80% is between ASA and SKWY Airlines. They made that change shortly after the purchase.
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Wrong. Skywest has there own DCI agreement. JA went back in to ASA's DCI Agreement and changed it from 80% for ASA to ASA or Skywest Airlines.
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I agree! No more help from me! Im done!
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Who is running MTC--former OO people.
Who is President--a former/maybe not former OO person
Who is CFO--a former/maybe not former OO person
Inc. makes those decisions. Yes, they decided that you should share the pain.
The money is in ATL, now and in the longterm, not SLC.
Well-Let's see.....
-Plane catching on fre in TLH,
-Plane "departed end of runway" in SAV
-Practically whole fleet grounded due to mx screw-up on inspections.
-First quarter went GREAT!
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Where is that written, WWW? Is the source that told you that, the same one that told you that there would be new bases?
Show the facts in writing!
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These are the facts, as of today:
Delta announced last month it would need to make steeper capacity cuts this year than it had previously expected. Its new plan for involves a 10 percent capacity cut this year compared with 2008, instead of its previous plan for a 6 percent to 8 percent reduction. As a Delta Connection carrier, ASA is affected by Delta’s cutbacks in its flying.
Other Delta regional carriers are also furloughing pilots, including Comair and Mesaba. Delta is offering its pilots early retirement packages to cut back its work force.
**Furloughs are happening across the industry. The economy continues to spiral down and YOUR President continues to direct policies that will bankrupt this country. It will, it will, get worse!
Delta announced last month it would need to make steeper capacity cuts this year than it had previously expected. Its new plan for involves a 10 percent capacity cut this year compared with 2008, instead of its previous plan for a 6 percent to 8 percent reduction. As a Delta Connection carrier, ASA is affected by Delta’s cutbacks in its flying.
Other Delta regional carriers are also furloughing pilots, including Comair and Mesaba. Delta is offering its pilots early retirement packages to cut back its work force.
**Furloughs are happening across the industry. The economy continues to spiral down and YOUR President continues to direct policies that will bankrupt this country. It will, it will, get worse!
JumpersAway
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Well, with the exception of one of those items, it had nothing to do with the pilot group. The MX issue is rediculous- a clear indicator of how much money we would be saving, as a collective, if we were a single company, on a single list. For some reason, things haven't improved MX wise with the guidance of the SkyWest folks.
Although irritated at the whole mess, it could be worse. Hey- take a look at Express Jet and Comair. Maybe we're next in line, but then again, maybe we aren't. There's only one thing for certain, and that is that none of us here know squat about what lies around the corner. With all this going on, it's inevitable that we will take a sour look at things- just like last year when we furloughed the initial 80. Not long after, we got the 900's and morale improved again. Who knows- maybe Delta drops Republic's 70 seat lift and we fill in the blank. Any number of things are possible here- we've just got to be patient..............and yes, before anyone points it out to me, I was irritated at the whole mess earlier as well- just look back further in this thread.
I disagree and find it highly unlikely. The no-furlough clause is fairly specific and is the reason that more were not furloughed today.
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furlough clauses are worthless.
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