Anyone get a call from Frontier

[ProV1]

Second That!

Still here and waiting for the that shot. Good to hear F9 still moving forward.

 

[stratus72]

Hurry up and get here Shrek! ;-) You too ProV1.

 

[ProV1]

I'd start tomorrow!

Wish it were that easy...I'd be out there tomorrow to start class!

 

[ProV1]

Long Live the Tread!!

How's everyone doing? F9Recrutier...what's the word on interviews and classes for October.

Thanks

 

[DieselDash]

Anyone have any info on Frontier Lynx fling the Q400?????

 

[Big Duke Six]

No hard news, but since their timeline is fairly aggressive I'd say interviews etc should be happening soon. It sounds like some issues in our current negotiations need to be revisited as well, so that may affect how potential new hires view the new airline.

 

[Trogdor]

Unfortunately you know there will be plenty of applicants no matter who it angers at F9.

 

[crashpad]

Highering happens in waves at F9. There's a lull now, so expect a surge around Chirstmas. That's my predication, and so far I've been on target (wheather good or lucky).

more predications:

You'll see little change in the pilot culture and will continue to be positive regarding our new feeder airline.

Contract negociations won't wrap up for about two more years with little changed.

Hiring balloon in mid to late 2007 as a result of the increased revenue and strategic expansion of F9 (locally, domestically and internationally).

 

[F9Recruiter]

How's everyone doing? F9Recrutier...what's the word on interviews and classes for October.

Thanks

It's been a while since I posted and sorry for not being able to give updates. The class schedule has been ammended. The next class will begin October 24 followed by a December 4 class. The numbers haven't changed. We are still looking to add 56 pilots between now and May '07. We will begin interviewing again in October for classes in January. Expect two interview sessions per month beginning again in October.

I want to wish all of you the best in your pursuit of a position at Frontier. It is a great company with the best pilot group in the industry (maybe I'm a bit biased, but I believe that with all my heart.) This will be my last posting for Frontier as I have accepted the Human Resource Director position with Lynx Aviation.

There have been questions regarding the posting for positions for Lynx and the Q400's. I need to put a system in place for collecting applications and will be working with the new DO and Chief Pilot to determine minimums, interview process, etc. I imagine everything will be in place in October and I'll be posting under a new user name once things are determined.

Again, best wishes to all Frontier candidates. To the pilot group at Frontier, I will miss working with you. I am grateful for the opportunity to work with the bast and am thankful for all of your collaboration in the hiring process.

Gary

 

[F9 Driver]

Gary,

We'll miss you! You've done a great job. Thank you.

Crashpad,

I've a little information so let me give my .02 about these predictions.

"You'll see little change in the pilot culture and will continue to be positive regarding our new feeder airline."

The pilot culture is a reflection of the management culture which has taken a huge turn for the worse. This attempt by management to circumvent our CBA won't be forgotten anytime soon, and the battle is just beginning. This isn't about "our new feeder airline." It is about the ability to whipsaw our pilot group with a non-union operation controlled by the same company who controlls us.

Even if our current management was all hearts and flowers, tomorrow we could be bought by J.O. of Mesa fame, and all J.P.'s promices of intent wouldn't mean a thing.

"Contract negociations won't wrap up for about two more years with little changed. "

We are close now with just a couple of things remaining - like scope. If we are still at it in two years there WILL be a mediator in the room, and it won't be friendly.

 

[starchkr]

Good luck Gary! It was a pleasure working with you, and i will never forget the opportunity given to me to come and join the F9 team! It is definately everything i thought it would be and more.

F9 Driver (and everyone else)...I am not too up to par on the workings of unions and all, but i did have a question that you may all be able to help me with. We keep mentioning that Lynx will be non-union, what is preventing the new pilots from forming one or being represented by one as soon as they show up on property? Couldn't they have representation from day one if they all voted it in? I don't know, like i said, i am not too sure how they work "exactly" but i would think they would be able to do such a thing, limiting any reverberations throughout the rest of the holding companies owned entities. I also like to think that this is going to be a good thing, bring the outsourced money back in-house to avoid paying Horizon or anyone else those fees and bonuses. Sure i worry about my job every now and then, but I would rather spend my time thinking about how this can positively affect us.

Ok, so back to the original topic...we need more people on the list...the more the better, so bring on the interviews and classes!!!

 

[Cloud F9]

The new Lynx... Good or Evil?

Hello all. I am fairly new to the group. I too am focused on making Frontier my home. I have been reading everything I can find on the Q400 situation, and how the F9 pilot group feels about it -

Thus far I have read it probably won't be a union? Are they looking to hire street captains as well? I hope Lynx won't be the modern "freedom" and have the industry frown down at the people there. Frontier has a great image that I hate to see get tarnished.

As for my situation: I live in DEN and would love an opportunity to get in on the ground floor flying the Q400 - especially since I have extensive time in that type and flying environment. At the same time I'd rather not have my name on a list..etc.. ya know?!

Anyone have more insight on how they are planning to start? I am awaiting Gary's update as well. Perhaps their might be some "flow-thru" to Frontier?!! Who knows!

I just read that Horizon is ending their contract with F9; so whats next!?

Safe travels! Thanks for your input.

 

[FOrever85]

Good

Lynx is NOT anything like freedom or gojets. Lynx is not an alter-ego carrier. They are not using your companies' profits to fund an airline that will end up taking your job, nor are they asking you for a significant paycut. They are simply following JetBlue by adding a very cost effective aircraft to serve mid-size, high-yield routes.

If there intent is to screw F9 pilots, you will know it real quick. If they agree to F9 flying everthing over 80 seats without a fight, you know they are legit. If the company starts fighting for 100 seats, then you will know something is up.

 

[F9 Driver]

"Lynx is NOT anything like freedom or gojets. Lynx is not an alter-ego carrier. They are not using your companies' profits to fund an airline that will end up taking your job, nor are they asking you for a significant paycut. They are simply following JetBlue by adding a very cost effective aircraft to serve mid-size, high-yield routes."

How do you figure? Where did the money come from then? The stated goal isn't to whipsaw the current pilots, but by the time Lynx is up and running who knows? By then it will be too late to object since the precident will have been established, and Frontier Holdings will be free to do whatever.

"If there intent is to screw F9 pilots, you will know it real quick. If they agree to F9 flying everthing over 80 seats without a fight, you know they are legit. If the company starts fighting for 100 seats, then you will know something is up."

We shall soon see. We can only hope I'm wrong!

 

[Shrek]

Gary.......I want to thank you sincerely for the oppurtunity to interview at F9.

I wish you professional and personal success. Although I will continue to update like mad to get another shot at Frontier Airlines.....ya never forget your first at bat. A lot of people around the company will miss seeing and working with you every day.......

Good Luck.........

Jeff Porter

 

[Captain Overs]

Lynx is NOT anything like freedom or gojets. Lynx is not an alter-ego carrier. They are not using your companies' profits to fund an airline that will end up taking your job, nor are they asking you for a significant paycut. They are simply following JetBlue by adding a very cost effective aircraft to serve mid-size, high-yield routes.

If there intent is to screw F9 pilots, you will know it real quick. If they agree to F9 flying everthing over 80 seats without a fight, you know they are legit. If the company starts fighting for 100 seats, then you will know something is up.

Funny stuff. You guys had better be real careful about what you let Frontier do. It always seems good in the beginning. Don't put your heads in the sand.

 

[FOrever85]

"How do you figure? Where did the money come from then? The stated goal isn't to whipsaw the current pilots, but by the time Lynx is up and running who knows? By then it will be too late to object since the precident will have been established, and Frontier Holdings will be free to do whatever."

If it were like Gojets, they would be buying A330's and flying them oversees, and having another pilot group do it for cheaper.

I think you missed my point. I agree that you should be skeptical. My point was more directed to the last sentence. Wait and see what your management does. If they fight you on scope you will know they are out to whipsaw. But, at the pace they seem to be moving, I seriously doubt they want to upset an otherwise happy pilot group. (if there is such a thing?)

Trust me, working for Mesaba, I know all about b.s management games.

 

[Itsallsogood]

Original post.... Has Frontier called? Why would they? Animal Tail you are such a...... (miss ya man) LOL

 

[crashpad]

I agree with you, and stand by my predictions.