Any Pet Peeves?

[LAXSaabdude]

Some other guy, I think it was laxsaabdude said he hates when FO's question his technique. I guess I am annoying then because whenever I see a captain do something thats not normal I question it so I can learn, I dont ask it in an a$$hole kinda way, I ask and I make myself sound interested because if something works, I want to use it. I hope my captains arent like you and think im annoying because I dont "question" them, I ask them ONLY to learn!

Trust me, I can tell the difference! The ones who are wanting to learn are a pleasure.

I flew with a guy one time who was incredibly annoying. On the Saab, there is a half-bank limiter, that the book recommends not be used in the terminal area because it widens the turning radius of the aircraft. It didn't define what it meant by "terminal area", and was not written as a limitation, just a guidance as how it is to be used.

We were flying LAX-SAN one time, and were about 10 miles from Mission Bay, after which I knew we were going to fly for another 10 miles in a straight line, before we turned base. If we turned any earlier, I'm pretty sure I would notice the difference and turn the half-bank off. I had only done this flight about a thousand times! The FO said "Are you sure you want the half-bank on now?"

Same FO. He was preflighting the aircraft. You know, important stuff like ensuring the airworthiness of the airplane we were about to strap our butts into. I was walking across a portion of the ramp in plain view of NOONE (no windows where I was). It was a hot day out I had loosend my tie and unbuttoned the top button. The FO stops his preflight, walks up to me, and tells me that my tie is undone! This was a guy who refused to wear his hat, not that I ever said anything about it!

Same FO. We are flying LAX-SAN, it's my leg, we are filed at 9000. We level off, and we are in the cloud tops getting bounced around pretty bad. I can see that it is clear above. At almost the exact moment we level off, So-Cal approach says "Hey Eagle Flight ---, 9000 has reports of turbulence, but 11000 is reported smooth. You want higher?" Without even bothering to ask me, FO immediately gets on the radio, and says "No this is fine, thanks!" I look at him and say "Uh, no, it's not. We want 11000."

Same FO. Some of my friends were in his new hire class. The entire class would go over to the FA academy for lunch across the street. Better food, better scenery, you know. This guy would go around and try to round up all of his classmates to escort them back to class so they wouldn't be late! Like he's the hall monitor or something!

Point is, guys like this are really rare, but they are extremely annoying and they are the ones who will stick in your memory. They have no concept of how to operate as a crew and operate only for their own self-glorification.

Hope you didn't take my original post the wrong way! I do enjoy flying with someone who is still enthusiastic about the job to want to learn. It's getting harder and harder to find a good attitude these days.

LAXSaabdude.

 

[LAXSaabdude]

HEY! laxsaabdude was one of the most fun captains I ever flew with. Don't judge based on flightinfo posts!

Aww thanks! And most of the FOs I fly with are very cool too, you included, English! There are like 3 people I can think of who fit my earlier description. One of them is still here (and is a captain now !), and the other two are at Allegiant.

I take pride in treating my FOs as my peers and equals. Unfortunately some take that as an invitation to walk all over me. They find out what it's like to fly the rest of the month with my evil twin!

Hows the gall bladder by the way, I saw the pictures! Yuck!

LAXSaabdude.

 

[PCL_128]

1. Putting your hand on the flaps or gear to "prompt" me for them when I'm the PF. I'll ask for them when I want them, thank you very much.

2. Messing with the thrust levers when it's not your leg. If you want to fly a different speed, then just say something. I don't like looking up from my magazine to find that we're suddenly doing M.80 instead of the M.74 I set a few minutes earlier.

3. I agree about the jumpseaters. It's just common courtesy. I don't expect you to wait around for me if I'm out doing the preflight or something, but if I'm sitting right there then at least say hi.

 

[Rook]

Jepp revisions

'cleaning up' a cockpit during an aircraft swap. (I.E. switches)

being mistaken for a CSA when I'm looking at the wx packet

New F/A's telling me the cabin is 'secure' when there are more pax boarding.

 

[LAXSaabdude]

being mistaken for a CSA when I'm looking at the wx packet

Ugh!
"Excuse me! Could you tell me if my frequent flyer miles are being credited to my account on this flight?"
"Excuse me! Is there any way you could move my seat so I'm not in the middle?"

New F/A's telling me the cabin is 'secure' when there are more pax boarding.

We had an FA who had been around a while and had the worst attendance record. He would show up at the plane about 15 mins prior to departure, and during the boarding process would SLAM the door in the face of pax walking across the ramp, storm up to the cockpit, look down at the ACARS, and say "Are we OUT yet?" (i.e., did we drop the brake to show we had departed on time). Uhhhh, no, there are still people walking out to the airplane.....

LAXSaabdude.

 

[DX Rick]

Met several Yahoos at the first airline I worked for, they were FO's. The first thing out of their mouths. My name is Joe, My dad flies the 747 for United.

My dad says this is how United does it.

Well United's policy is this.....

Who cares who your dad is, who cares who your brother flies for.....you aren't them, so shut up!

 

[cardboardboxes]

My thing is jumpseaters who come into the cabin without their documents in hand. If I walk into your cockpit looking for a ride, I guarantee you I'll have my ID and license in my hand.

I had three jumpseaters on a flight last week, LAS-SLC, two Skywest and one American Eagle. First Skywest comes up, docs in hand. American
Eagle is next, docs in hand. Then the other Skywest comes up, no docs out, and says 'HI'. I kind of look at him, he then asks if I 'want to see the bullsith', and I say, 'yeah, actually, I do'.

 

[hydroflyer]

Stuck mics, unless you hear someone sticking their foot in their mouth, then it is pretty entertaining. When ATC or someone else has to announce over the frequency "everyone check your mics, we have a stuck mic on frequency," that gets pretty annoying since the one with the hot mic will not be able to hear the announcement.

 

[Regional4life]

Jumpseating out of IAH, being at the gate an hour and a half early, asking the gate agent politely for the jumpseat on an NWA flight, and having some puke come up and try to bump me out of the jumpseat saying "My company is wholely owned, It's my jumpseat, I get priority". Read your freakin FOM on redtail jumpseat priority. You're not priority because you are wholely owned. Idiot. And if you are reading this, you know who you are. By the way, how was the continental flight?

FO's thinking that because company alcohol policy is 12 hours and FAR's are 8, that they can excuse the 12 hour rule and judge for themselves how drunk they are inside of 12 without breaking the 8 hour rule.

The human resources hiring policy on flight attendants. Really? If the FO was really drinking inside 12, maybe I know why now!!! Damn, can't I be hired at KLM?

New hires of 800 hours thinking they are "The gift" to this airline. "I was hand picked for the jet". Interesting. Can you not fark up the read back to clearance next time then? I think they already know that we are IFR to Layfette.

 

[BlackPilot628]

The human resources hiring policy on flight attendants. Really? If the FO was really drinking inside 12, maybe I know why now!!! dang, can't I be hired at KLM?

About time someone went there!

How about this one for all you regional pilots that fly for 2 or more companies.
- Walking up to the gate of a Legacy airline that your regional flys for and them telling you ," you can't sit in the jumpseat, you don't have XXX pass bennies."
WHAT?! It's my airline!!!

EEEERRRR

 

[Rook]

Jumpseating out of IAH, being at the gate an hour and a half early, asking the gate agent politely for the jumpseat on an NWA flight, and having some puke come up and try to bump me out of the jumpseat saying "My company is wholely owned, It's my jumpseat, I get priority". Read your freakin FOM on redtail jumpseat priority. You're not priority because you are wholely owned. Idiot. And if you are reading this, you know who you are. By the way, how was the continental flight?

FO's thinking that because company alcohol policy is 12 hours and FAR's are 8, that they can excuse the 12 hour rule and judge for themselves how drunk they are inside of 12 without breaking the 8 hour rule.

The human resources hiring policy on flight attendants. Really? If the FO was really drinking inside 12, maybe I know why now!!! dang, can't I be hired at KLM?

New hires of 800 hours thinking they are "The gift" to this airline. "I was hand picked for the jet". Interesting. Can you not Frick up the read back to clearance next time then? I think they already know that we are IFR to Layfette.

R4Life if this was a 9E clown that did this to you I'll apologize for him/her. That's crap!

 

[ohplease!]

about 90% of our FA's.....ugly as hell!

 

[CA1900]

The XJT jumpseater I had the other day who showed up in a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals, asking for a ride. I'm amazed the gate let him out. For heaven's sake people, at least put pants on for the jumpseat!

And then he had the nerve to be such a nice guy, I didn't have the heart to razz him about it.

 

[Regional4life]

R4Life if this was a 9E clown that did this to you I'll apologize for him/her. That's crap!

Thanks. I appreciate that. I take it with a grain of salt. What do they say, "One bad apple ruins a bushel?" It's just one guy, definately not the majority of 9E guys. I respect everyone over there (minus one).

 

[BlackPilot628]

The XJT jumpseater I had the other day who showed up in a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals, asking for a ride. I'm amazed the gate let him out. For heaven's sake people, at least put pants on for the jumpseat!

And then he had the nerve to be such a nice guy, I didn't have the heart to razz him about it.

Man, I've never had the nerve to do that; but I sure would like to be able to.

 

[crashpad]

Passengers riding on planes who would normally be on Greyhound because bankrupt carriers won't die! I had a woman on my flight who screamed obscenities at her innocent kids and I thought ,'where is a govt. sterilization program in this country'.

 

[Dude]

Why not........

Morons that are employed only because of the ACLU and/or ALPA. I have flown with several folks that would be on the street where they belong if it weren't for their respective union. They are a hazard and occupy a sen. # that I could otherwise have.

Affirmative action.

Democrats.

You.

People that ask my opinion as if they cared.

Senior Captains that say "I could have gone to AA/DAL/UAL 20 years ago, but I would have given all this up. Just be honest about your lack of ambition and fear of rejection.

Anyone that thinks they know what is going to happen next at their airline and then spread it as gospel.

Anyone that went to Riddle and admits it the first time they meet you.

AirTran's 500 PIC/121 requirement.

You.

The Moderators on this board that take themselves waaayyyy too seriously.
Flying .80 when you can do .83

 

[UnstableAviator]

1) Flying hungry. Too many quick turns with aircraft swaps and no time to get some grub. I can only sustain myself with granola, pretzels, and snack packs for so long.

2) People working the ops radio that speak lousy english, and speak it fast. I'm still fairly new, but I'm getting a lot better at decoding the chatter.

3) Neckties. Probably just me, but I hate em. Too bad pilot uniforms can't be polo shirts and khakis.

 

[Sgt. Hartman]

1. Pilots doing ref+10 25 miles from the airport.

2. Pilots that don't know how to properly report turbulence. eg. Moderate to severe light chop. WTF????????????????

Here let me help:


Light Turbulence that momentarily causes
slight, erratic changes in altitude and/or
attitude (pitch, roll, yaw). Report as
Light Turbulence

Turbulence that causes slight, rapid and
somewhat rhythmic bumpiness without
appreciable changes in altitude or
attitude. Report as Light Chop.

Turbulence but of greater intensity.
Changes in altitude and/or attitude occur
but the aircraft remains in positive
control at all times. It usually causes
variations in indicated airspeed. Report
as Moderate Turbulence;

Turbulence that is similar to Light Chop
but of greater intensity. It causes rapid
bumps or jolts without appreciable
changes in aircraft altitude or attitude.
Report as Moderate Chop.

Severe Turbulence that causes large, abrupt
changes in altitude and/or attitude. It
usually causes large variations in
indicated airspeed. Aircraft may be
momentarily out of control. Report as
Severe Turbulence.

Extreme Turbulence in which the aircraft is
violently tossed about and is practically
impossible to control. It may cause
structural damage. Report as Extreme
Turbulence.

 

[BaronDrvr]

I was a ramper for 4 years while I was in college as well, but I wasn't thugged out and we had a dress code. When did they start letting the rampers wear those dangn stockings on there head? Only in STL

OK, maybe I wasnt exactly that thugged out to be wearing stockings. "Only in STL" is about right though. If youve ever seen the STL scene in National Lampoons Vacation movie, that about sums up St Louis.