In my opinion, he has no standing to condemn anyone who rejects ALPA for any reason, whatsoever.
Coming from someone who should be expelled from the Association because of your RJDC activities, that doesn't exactly mean a lot.
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In my opinion, he has no standing to condemn anyone who rejects ALPA for any reason, whatsoever.
I've never said that Pinnacle is the "worst regional out there." Far from it. There are plenty worse. However, Pinnacle is a horrible place to work because of the management mentality. With that said, PCL ALPA does a superb job of protecting the pilots from overzealous managers. The number of jobs/careers of PCL pilots that have been saved by the hardworking volunteers of PCL ALPA is truly astounding. Despite how much I hate PCL management, I would still choose to work at Pinnacle over Skywest any day. The career protection and peace of mind of legal representation is just too important. Having seen the polling results when I was on the MEC at Pinnacle, I can tell you with complete certainty that an overwhelming majority of the PCL pilot group is more than satisfied with their ALPA representation.
Oh my God, it's getting deep in here!
You would chose PCL over Skywest because PCL is ALPA and the job protection is too much to pass up for a non union carrier.
But yet you left an ALPA carrier for a non ALPA carrier. Let me guess, Air Trans management is like no other, and you don't fear losing your job beacause of management ???
What I am alluding to is the guy who has paid ALPA dues for 20 years and has 4 uniforms in his closet because ALPA failed to protect his career. In most cases the failed career for one was a boon for another.
We can scream about bad management, and for the most part, they are bad with few exception. But a lot of ALPA's policies or lack thereof have contributed to the industry we see today. We have regional pilots competing with mainline pilots for flights, airplanes, and jobs. We have regional pilots competing with other regional pilots for flights, airplanes, and jobs. The fact that 90% of them are represented by ALPA means ALPA is two faced when it comes to these things. The independent unions only have one group to worry about.....the group that formed them.
Rez, Occam, and PCL can scream to the heavens that it is we who control the destiny of the union, but until the union protects those who stick their neck out, there will be no participation.
Talk about a false premise; now who's the Kool-Aidist? Trust between management and workers since the times of Freddie Taylor and before has been contentious, but effective leaders realize that absolute minimalist approaches don't work either. Time and again research demonstrates that job satisfaction, identification, consideration, empowerment, and psychological safety all result in extra-role behavior, commitment, and extra effort; without them you get high attrition, deviant workplace behaviors, poor customer service and strained labor management relations. The last all impact the bottom line, which is what causes management to address antecents; it is not pressure from the unions per se.
Unions don't keep leaders in check by ensuring the bring the pay and benefits off the rock-bottom floor; effective leaders realize the high costs associated with the negative behaviors listed above, and try to strike a cost-benefit balance. Unions arose out of worsening labor-management relations, but some of that was due to the the cavalier attitudes of pilots during the days of individualism (Hopkins, 1970). Don't kid yourself on collectivism: when a unionized carrier's workers face imminent danger, they don't take one for the team--they look out for themselves first. The conflict inherent in drawing craft bounds that signal unique identification ultimately leads to more self-imposed conflict than it does cooperation at the organizational and interairline level (Walsh, 1994). Yours is an interesting premise as well, but full of crap--it appeals to emotion rather than anything empirical or even rational.
I think we see in Southwest an ideal of how well labor-management relations can be under union stewardship; ALPA just doesn't seem to support cordiality and collectivism so much as it does itself as a sole entity.
Read:
Hopkins, G. (1970). The airline pilots: A study in elite unionization. Cambridge, MA: Harvard Press [oh, by the same guy who wrote the Flying the Line volumes]
Walsh, D. (1994). On different planes: An organizational analysis of cooperation and conflict among airline unions.
Great a mexican stand off...
ALPA says: self goevern your career..
the pilot says: no..you do it...you govern my career
ALPA: ..uh..ok..you want ALPA to make your decisions for you. Well at least tell me what you want.. vote and particpate..
Pilot: no.. you guys sucks. I am not doing anything till you do what I want.
ALPA: what do you want
Pilot: I already you told you.. you guys suck...
ALPA: We get it.. we suck.. let's work together to solve the problems.
Pilot: that is IT! I want to decertify ALPA.
How about unemployment expereinces at union companies that went out of business? Does that make one pro-union or anti-union?