Anti union pilots.....I don't get it.

[MarineGrunt]

What has ALPA done for me? First and foremost, when my wife was pregnant with our second child. she had a car accident. I called my domicile chief pilot, and was released immediately during the overnight. I was informed 2 days later, that upon my return from the overnight, I was scheduled for a drug test, and was accused of avoiding it. The company attempted to terminate me. ALPA stepped in and got me reinstated, I did not have to pay any attorney fees.
I lost my medical. Who helped me fight the FAA and get my medical back? ALPA did. While I know many are not fans of ALPA and I am aware Republic and Horizon are IBT, without any union, I would not be flying today. I also would have had a termination on my record. Without a union, you have ZERO PROTECTIONS from anyrthing to altitude or clearance deviations while lying the line, or protections from the FAA Aeromedical doctors. You are fair game. There are a few non union carriers. And I wonder how many are constantly being pushed around? If the company treats you well, then you don't need a union. But remember, you also sacrafice protections that ASAP programs provide, or protections if you lose your medical or protections due to lack of communication.

Reasons like these are why I decided to vote yes. My wife is going back to school soon and I will be the sole provider for her and our children. If I were by chance caught in a situation as J and E, we would be SCREWED. I don't think things would have gotten any better or worse at SkyWest if the voted passed, but having that type of protection would be a no brainer.

I will also say that some of you ALPA chest thumpers here have done an EXTREME injustice to the ALPA drive and the image of ALPA. I have no doubt that a sizable portion of the 65% were likely turned away by your negative and hostile attitudes. The next drive will probably be no better with those types around. You all know who you are. On the other hand, there have been a lot of very professional members on this board that took the time to educate the SkyWest pilots on the benefits and importance of a union. They made the biggest difference in the cause.

The drive failed. Let's get over it.

 

[BigLebowski]

Reasons like these are why I decided to vote yes. My wife is going back to school soon and I will be the sole provider for her and our children. If I were by chance caught in a situation as J and E, we would be SCREWED. I don't think things would have gotten any better or worse at SkyWest if the voted passed, but having that type of protection would be a no brainer.

I will also say that some of you ALPA chest thumpers here have done an EXTREME injustice to the ALPA drive and the image of ALPA. I have no doubt that a sizable portion of the 65% were likely turned away by your negative and hostile attitudes. The next drive will probably be no better with those types around. You all know who you are. On the other hand, there have been a lot of very professional members on this board that took the time to educate the SkyWest pilots on the benefits and importance of a union. They made the biggest difference in the cause.

The drive failed. Let's get over it.

couldn't agree with you more. The threats on here are what made me not vote. I thought if this is the type of people that will be representing me i'll do without.

 

[capt. megadeth]

couldn't agree with you more. The threats on here are what made me not vote. I thought if this is the type of people that will be representing me i'll do without.

Why not vote yes and then do something about it (ie. YOU be the one doing the representing)?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Why not vote yes and then do something about it (ie. YOU be the one doing the representing)?

takes too much time and effort..... I just wanna fly my trip and go home..leave me alone I wanna go home...

by the way...

what are YOU going to do for ME?


Those who refuse to particapte in politics will be govern by their inferiors....

 

[capt. megadeth]

takes too much time and effort..... I just wanna fly my trip and go home..leave me alone I wanna go home...

by the way...

what are YOU going to do for ME?


Those who refuse to particapte in politics will be govern by their inferiors....

Exactly.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Some of you are confusing those who are "anti-ALPA" with being "anti-union"..... There are many here who want ALPA to act more like a union.....

What is amazing to me is the number of people who think the current ALPA approach is the best we can do.....

ALPA either needs to reform, or it needs to be replaced....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Some of you are confusing those who are "anti-ALPA" with being "anti-union"..... There are many here who want ALPA to act more like a union.....

So what are you doing to help Joe?

What is amazing to me is the number of people who think the current ALPA approach is the best we can do.....

It isn't Joe... we are trying to change it... but we keep getting sued... have any idea what I am talking about...

ALPA either needs to reform, or it needs to be replaced....

Well we just put the RJDC lawsuit to rest, but there are a couple more... as long as our own members keep suing ALPA because thier expectation weren't met it gets hard to do the core work...

ALPA is not a pilots personal career valet...

 

[PCL_128]

So what are you doing to help Joe?

He was too busy withholding meeting minutes and refusing to comply with his duties as outlined in the C & BLs to actually do any good. For someone that never even bothered to attend his own LEC meetings when he was an Officer, he sure talks a whole lot about how ALPA should change things. Just a typical self-centered and apathetic pilot. Nothing more.

 

[Positive Rate]

we are trying to change it... but we keep getting sued... have any idea what I am talking about...

Thats funny........ALPA getting sued?........seems thats what ALPA is always doing........

Full Circle...... huh?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Thats funny........ALPA getting sued?........seems thats what ALPA is always doing........

Full Circle...... huh?

Hardly... ALPA sues companies and gov't.. not individual pilots...

Full circle would be ALPA sueing TWA pilots, or Pan Am pilots, or RJDC pilots...

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