PuffDriver
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Believe it or not, I actually agree with a lot of your post.
I think that the new travelnet sucks.
I disagree with the first boldface. If the 10% is what the number is, it is what it is. While YOU may not be bitching about it, your compadres keep on bitching about it. While you think that Delta pilots hover around this board like vultures waiting for the carcass, I submit that your compadres do it more. Regardless, if indeed that number is 10% less, then indeed it is more than offset by the sheer number of increased aircraft that Delta brought to the table. So you retire#11 instead of #10, or #110 instead of #100. The extra airplanes brought to the mix offset that. That is what I am saying, and it is correct. If it had been a true relative seniority instead of what it was, it would have been much worse. Couple in the fact that you indeed got "credit" for retirements, also unprecedented, while Delta got no credit for retirements down the road and you have nothing to gripe about. Yes, everyone retires.
I agree that all the pay rates suck. No doubt. Delta brought higher pay rates. Delta brought better work rules. You brought your pensions. To say that DALPA did not bring them is in error. The Delta MEC drover this merger from day 1. To say otherwise is incorrect. It doesn't really matter anyway. So your 747 buddy made more than an ER captain. BFD. I can probably make more than a reserve ER captain as an 88 captain. So what? What point are you trying to prove/ Mine? That staying senior on an airplane may be the way to go? Sorry, but that's outside the discussion, and to suggest otherwise that rates aren't the comparative measure is, let me see how you put it, 100% Grade A BS statement.
You give yourself too much credit about stirring up the hornets nest. It was stirred up well before you got here.
You indeed have access to well over twice the widebodies. Vacancy or none, the monkey has been turned loose in the banana garden, with no fences around the trees. He can't climb them all at once, but will get to them. While you like to try and convince people that it does not matter where you lay over since the a/c does not pay much more than a 737-700, I will counter that #1 the airplane is more productive than the -700. You can finish your month in 3-6 less days on an ER vs a -700. #2 our most senior trips are to places such as Nice, Rome, Frankfurt, etc while the more junior places are to africa. So, indeed, it DOES matter where you layover in the grand scheme. Suggesting anything less is a "100% Grade A BS statement".
I never said that Delta pilots got nothing out of this. I said that we got a lot less than NWA did.
NWA pilots are indeed bitching about the list even today. The 10% number IS bitching about the SLI. To suggest otherwise is a "100% Grade A BS statement."
If a larger displacement off the 747-400 occurs, and I believe it will when they get parked, post SOC, indeed all positions theoretically could get filled by NWA pilots. Although I am sure you do not mention this when you jumpseat on Delta aircraft, as you educate us dumb hicks, it nonetheless is a completely true statement. All NWA pilots could theoretically flow to pre-soc DAL aircraft and bases.
On second thought, other than travelnet sucking and aircraft paying less than they should, we don't agree on much, and you are wrong about pretty much everything else. Perhaps you should re-disappear and gather up some more "100% Grade A BS."
