An open letter to USAPA Members

[dollacrackho]

Usapa approved unanimously to put mou out for vote (not 100% verified yet)

 

[B-atch]

A little birdie just told me the MOU the APA just approved contains language from Dug stipulating the Nicolau list will be used. And that's why USAPA is in such a tizzy in CLT right now.

I seriously doubt this..But if it fills your fantasy, carry on...
The BPR will not recommend anything for membership ratification that deviates from its by-laws...
Besides anything encompassing the Nic will be VOTED DOWN by the membership..

 

[TWA Dude]

Well, if what I heard is accurate I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the Easties once again shot off their noses to spite their faces. The APA is looking forward to dealing with y'all...

 

[B-atch]

Me thinks your fishing....
DP knows that if the Nic is thrown in to the mix at this stage, the East will scuttle the merger...You know better..

 

[dollacrackho]

Maybe all the pressure from the media worked. Half the airline is gone in 5 years . Those guys need the pay bump to finance their brand new lark mobility scooters.

 

[abefly]

Me thinks your fishing....
DP knows that if the Nic is thrown in to the mix at this stage, the East will scuttle the merger...You know better..

It was pretty simple. Take the pay raise and 10k bonus now with the NIC, or you stay on LOA 93 C2004 until you are integrated into APA two years down the road and it will still be the NIC. That is unless USAPA came up with a LUP in the past three days. But I doubt that.

You really think all the Captains are going to turn down a 70K dollar pay raise so that you poor F.O.'s can get your captain seat?

 

[B-atch]

It was pretty simple. Take the pay raise and 10k bonus now with the NIC, or you stay on LOA 93 C2004 until you are integrated into APA two years down the road and it will still be the NIC. That is unless USAPA came up with a LUP in the past three days. But I doubt that.

You really think all the Captains are going to turn down a 70K dollar pay raise so that you poor F.O.'s can get your captain seat?

Were YOU there?...Are you in the know?? If not, your just chasing your tail...The west is good at this..

 

[abefly]

Were YOU there?...Are you in the know?? If not, your just chasing your tail...The west is good at this..

No I wasn't there. I simply used something the EAST doesn't seem to have. It's called common sense.

Do you think that USAPA came up with a way to get around the NIC without the company, APA, or American violating their DFR to the West pilots? What is that Legitimate Union Purpose?

 

[B-atch]

No I wasn't there. I simply used something the EAST doesn't seem to have. It's called common sense.

Do you think that USAPA came up with a way to get around the NIC without the company, APA, or American violating their DFR to the West pilots? What is that Legitimate Union Purpose?

Still chasing your tail, I see..Back to lurking....Nothing to see here...

 

[Turtle21]

It was pretty simple. Take the pay raise and 10k bonus now with the NIC, or you stay on LOA 93 C2004 until you are integrated into APA two years down the road and it will still be the NIC. That is unless USAPA came up with a LUP in the past three days. But I doubt that.

You really think all the Captains are going to turn down a 70K dollar pay raise so that you poor F.O.'s can get your captain seat?

The APA pilots get a $100K signing bonus and keep their pension.

 

[LaGarbage Man]

Usapa approved unanimously to put mou out for vote (not 100% verified yet)

It's verified now. Just read the e-mail. Details to follow once the legalities of the non-disclosure period are met. Good news is we will get a vote on it. The devil is in the details.

 

[abefly]

Still chasing your tail, I see..Back to lurking....Nothing to see here...

Believe what you want. The reality will set in sooner or later. I have plenty of time to ride it out. Do you?

This deal is happening with or without the "blessing" of USAPA and it's East majority.

I almost hope the East votes this MOU down. Only to say that USAPA accomplished absolutely nothing in 6 years. So much for 60 days to a contract huh Bradford. Idiots.

 

[B-atch]

The BPR's UNANIMOUS decision to pass the MOU for membership ratification tells me that the Nic. is no-where to be found..Keep dreaming!!

 

[Turtle21]

The BPR's UNANIMOUS decision to pass the MOU for membership ratification tells me that the Nic. is no-where to be found..Keep dreaming!!

Probably a $10K signing bonus in exchange for CoC, no scope, and M/B SLI.

 

[abefly]

Probably a $10K signing bonus in exchange for CoC, no scope, and M/B SLI.

Ok , so let's say it doesn't. How will M/B work? US airways has to present a list to the arbitrator. That's right. US Airways, not USAPA. What list will they use. If it's anything other than the NIC, AOL will be back in Silvers court room that day getting an injunction. You just don't get it. There is no way around the NIC. Accept it and move on already.

 

[Carl S.]

Legal realities take time to set in fantasy land that Bradford and Seheam spun into the heads of gullible people who think there are ways out of your legal committments...Maybe a new name for USAPA once the MOU is approved and they can say it was not them, it worked before...

 

[Turtle21]

Ok , so let's say it doesn't. How will M/B work? US airways has to present a list to the arbitrator. That's right. US Airways, not USAPA. What list will they use. If it's anything other than the NIC, AOL will be back in Silvers court room that day getting an injunction. You just don't get it. There is no way around the NIC. Accept it and move on already.

If you are still asking someone to accept it then it isn't settled.... But if everyone votes on a new TA that supersedes the old TA... Be careful what you agree to by voting "yes", and don't assume anything into the new TA.

 

[B-atch]

Remember ladies, the TA can be modified/changed by concurrence between the Co. and USAPA. The judges said so.... We shall see what new horizons this new MOU brings...

 

[B-atch]

Probably a $10K signing bonus in exchange for CoC, no scope, and M/B SLI.

Yepp. The Co. Knows what the East is willing to PAY in order to kill the nic....And they will charge for it dearly..

 

[becket]

Yepp. The Co. Knows what the East is willing to PAY in order to kill the nic....And they will charge for it dearly..

The rights of the West pilots ARE NOT FOR SALE.