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Del Rio is a hard airport to operate into even in good weather. Especially coming in from the south. Short runway, poor lighting and non precision approaches. A part time military approach control. While they are reasonably good for the most part, they are more oriented to dealing with the military trainers at the AFB.

It is a favorite airport for the freighters and the like because of cheap fuel and laid back customs.

While the regs MAY be tightened up in the upcoming review of Part 135, I do not expect it to be tightened to the degree that may on this thread would like to see or expect. I have seen this before. This part of the industry is way too varied to have regulations as set in stone as Part 121 is. In fact the current changes to Part 135 have loosened some of the requirements.

While training does enhance safety to a large degree, training is not a substute for good judgement and experience. Both of these can be learned, but they take time. Unfortunately the sterile enviroment of the large training academies has taken a great deal way from the young pilots of today. They are not allowed to walk around the shop and watch the mechanics at work or ask them questions. They get school procedures and answers to all the problems. They are very restricted in what they do during the lessons and are not allowed to vary too far for the path. The lawyers and accountants have taken over the management of pilot training and these young pilots are being refused the opportunity to fill their individual bag of tricks up. These bags of tricks are lessons that we as pilots have learned over the years, generally due to some mistake we made and survived. Usually early in our career and usually a simple mistake. Sometimes they were mistakes our insturctors allowed us to make and used as a training tool. Something that seems to have become unacceptable behavior on the part of an instructor these days.
 
135.3C

Training under 121 standards is an option for 135 Turbo jet operators, and in my preivous post I detailed our Training Program at USA Jet. Based upon my experience in military training, training can do alot to make up for lack of experience. At 400 hrs TT I was flying the P-3 at night IFR low level patrols up and down the coast of Vietnam, and doing it safely. You train to make in advance as many decisions as possible, set tight standards, inspect on a frequent basis, and continuely enforce your SOP, to the point of downgrading pilots who want to do their own thing. When pilots are not given this training it is a managment failure. In the long run the extra money spent in traininig is a good investment.
 
Enough is enough

After reading regular replies to this post over the past few weeks, I know there are many of you who hate the company. I worked there for 2 years, and was ready to get out. My reason for wanting to leave was simply the lifestyle change. Sure, I had a couple emergencies in-flight, but that can happen anywhere. I never felt my life was in danger at any time due to the equipment I was flying.

Now, let`s get to the facts. After reading the preliminary report, how can any of you say that Ameristar is at fault for this crash? Those guys simply screwed up bad. REAL BAD!!!! I actually feel that after Lisa is well again, the feds are gonna have a justible reason to get the paddle and administer some serious corporal punishment. Ameristar`s equipment, and or maintenace have nothing to do with what happened. They were high, hot, and touched down with very little runway remaining while going off of the end at a high rate of speed. I have no idea who`s leg it was, but I had flown with the Captain many times. He was a very safe pilot, and I can`t see why he let this happen. They screwed up bad end of story.

In closing I would like to say that if all of you Ameristar, Cherry Air, USA Jet, Grandaire, and all other on demand pilots want to have this pissing contest over who`s organ is the largest, just remember this. You are all in the same boat, you all have terrible schedules, sucky lifestyles, and fly old equipment. Nothing is glam about any of these jobs whatsoever, but we all want to be in the same boat. Whether that boat is the airlines, corporate, etc..... Some of us will end up flying for the same companies, and if we can`t all get along on a pissy message board, we will have probs in the workplace.
 
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^^^ what he said :)

P.S. 135fr8r...you sound oddly familiar ;)
 
Hey if any of you Ameristar pilots wants to help a fellow pilot and take my resume in pleeease PM me. I am dying to work for Ameristar. ( I guess different perspective on seeing the company)

Scube.
 
dude...3 year old thread...

:puke:
 
If I were you Id worry more about where you are going to work after USA Jet closes its doors. Say anything you like about Ameristar...but just remember that A) our Falcons arent grounded and B) our doors arent closing.

I can't believe its all that much better at Ameristar. You guys also, from what I hear, have parked some aircraft. In the past your company has copied everything USA JET has done. Example- Lears, Falcons, DC9, and passenger aircraft. I sure hope you have your resume updated as well because its only a matter of time now!!!
 
I can't believe its all that much better at Ameristar. You guys also, from what I hear, have parked some aircraft. In the past your company has copied everything USA JET has done. Example- Lears, Falcons, DC9, and passenger aircraft. I sure hope you have your resume updated as well because its only a matter of time now!!!

A few have been put out to pasture because it doesnt make sense to fix them up...what else would you do with them? But if you guys are so good at what you do...then why is that we are kicking ass and taking names...and you guys are floundering over there? I have tell you...I dont think it was USA's idea to use Lears, Falcons or Dc-9's as freighters but its a good thing you did because its going to make our parts inventory that much larger.

Have fun on the way down buddy...but Im sure it wont be to far down due to the pilot shortage that Yip predicts.
 
A few have been put out to pasture because it doesnt make sense to fix them up...what else would you do with them? But if you guys are so good at what you do...then why is that we are kicking ass and taking names...and you guys are floundering over there? I have tell you...I dont think it was USA's idea to use Lears, Falcons or Dc-9's as freighters but its a good thing you did because its going to make our parts inventory that much larger.

Have fun on the way down buddy...but Im sure it wont be to far down due to the pilot shortage that Yip predicts.

Kicking ass and taking names. Thats funny!! Your funny!! Don't you know that we give you all the low dollar charters. Your our customers last resort if one of our aircraft can't do the trip. Your on time performance is weak at best according to our customers. You guys can't compete with our Falcons (RVSM). By the way look up because we are flying over your Falcons right now. Hows the weather at 28,000!!!;)
 
Kicking ass and taking names. Thats funny!! Your funny!! Don't you know that we give you all the low dollar charters. Your our customers last resort if one of our aircraft can't do the trip. Your on time performance is weak at best according to our customers. You guys can't compete with our Falcons (RVSM). By the way look up because we are flying over your Falcons right now. Hows the weather at 28,000!!!;)

Please...Talk all the trash you want but the fact remains...we are doing well as a company and you guys are not far from closing your doors. As far as the Wx at 280...its better than it is on the ground at YIP. It gets better at 450 in the Lear too. It seems to me like we can compete seeing as how we arent closing our doors any time soon.
 
I talked to one of Ameristars mechanics this morning before my departure. He told me about JUS problems a few weeks ago and that thiings will change overthere drastically after Jan first (rumour off-course and 2nd hand to boot). He told me that his own company Ameristar was only in business because of 1 primary customer and hanging on by a thread.

So no need to bash JUS or tell JUS pilots that Ameristar is better. All of us FR8 dogs are just hanging in there and should support eachother. And BTW all of us FR8 dogs work for bottom feeders. I seriously doubt that one is really that much better then another. They're all the same unfortunately.
 
I talked to one of Ameristars mechanics this morning before my departure. He told me about JUS problems a few weeks ago and that thiings will change overthere drastically after Jan first (rumour off-course and 2nd hand to boot). He told me that his own company Ameristar was only in business because of 1 primary customer and hanging on by a thread.

So no need to bash JUS or tell JUS pilots that Ameristar is better. All of us FR8 dogs are just hanging in there and should support eachother. And BTW all of us FR8 dogs work for bottom feeders. I seriously doubt that one is really that much better then another. They're all the same unfortunately.

I agree with you that we are all in this together. The problem I have is that JUS guys are the first ones to jump on anyone elses case. They run around thinking their $hit dosent stink and it gets old. Next time you are at an FBO take a second and ask the ground crew which company they dont like working with. I promise you that they will tell you that the JUS guys are nothing but pains in the back side. PilotYip accused Ameristar of putting rocks in their Falcon engines. My point is...all good things come to an end. These guys have been walking around big and tall for a while and now they expect us to light a candle and sing songs about JUS's demise. I hope all the guys over there find a decent place to go...just dont expect any sympathy from any of us. Do I think Ameristar is better...you bet. Do I think JUS guys are pricks...I sure do. I enjoy it over here because the people I fly with are great and we have a good time on the road. Does our new schedule suck, it could be better, but you come here and put your time in and a few years later you are off to NetJets, Flex, SWA etc.
 
VSIK9+, I never posted anything about rocks and engines, it is not my style. I try to deal in facts. It could have been another JUS guy but not me. BTW to quote Mark Twain, "Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated"
 
Ameristar "Kicking ASS?"

Wow....this was a three year old thread or something like that. I forgot Ameristar was still out there. But I guess the old rivalary still exsits. I am glad to have recieved this thread in an email, it gave me a smile on my face to actually hear someone at Ameristar...was....proud to work there? Ameristar is kicking ass? Well, that is easy to do on the "maintenance free" program. And before VS19k gets all in my cowling....Dude I flew for Ameristar, probably while you were just watching my contrail. It was two years of my life I will never get back. I worked at USA Jet as well....over 5 years worth. And USA Jet prepared me very well for my current job in the AirBus. Ameristar on the other hand...well I learned how to fly a Falcon on fumes, how to skirt the regs, how to fly a Falcon broke as ********************. Thankfully I was flying Falcons and they always brought me home. But I do have to say, I did have fun with the crews then...and the flying was great too. I thought USA Jet was all ********************ed up too.....then I went to work there and found out just how messed up Ameristar is! You have no idea what you are talking about VS19k. USA Jet is trying to compete and did very well for a long time to fly as a professional freight company. Yes they are all bottom feeders, USA Jet was just at the top of the bottom. You would have no idea what that is like to be treated like a professional instead of strapping on the eye patch and the spurs and getting treated as such. I don't want to beat on any fr8dog though...it's all tough work, I did it for 8+ years, living on the evil task master...the pager. I'm out now, thankfully...and I am a much, much, much better pilot for it! And when it all comes down to the end of the line this is what I know. I would much rather send my kids up in a plane with two freight dogs up front (regardless of where they came from) than some commuter, military or corporate pukes. And that my friend you can take to the bank!

keep 'em in the green ya'll
 
Hey cruxx watch it about those military guys, what will I do with all my helo drivers. Good to see you back. Lets have beer at the wedge sometime.
 
VSIK9+, I never posted anything about rocks and engines, it is not my style. I try to deal in facts. It could have been another JUS guy but not me. BTW to quote Mark Twain, "Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated"
Good to hear, YIP, since Ameristar sued Active this week (second time since July, I believe) for non-payment.
 
Good to hear, YIP, since Ameristar sued Active this week (second time since July, I believe) for non-payment.


It was probably the customer that Ameristar flew for. The told us not to pay them because they shut a plant down for being late with the freight.
 
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