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I'm sure there were plenty of bright/glossy/shiny photos of some ALPA guys sitting around a table somewhere involved in some kind of "conference" or calling themselves some kind of "team" or "taskforce" resolving some issue.
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Ah, you forgot to mention the one where they were all picketing, and posed for the photo. Looks like the National Mouth Breather Convention.
 
Dear Board of Directors:

Starting on July 28, you will be asked to vote on an important change to the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws. If approved by two-thirds of the Board of Directors, this change would make all pilot salary deferrals to 401(k) pension plans subject to dues. This would replace current policy, which contains an outdated patchwork of exemptions that do not treat all ALPA members fairly and fail to account for massive changes in how pilots are paid under negotiated contracts. The proposed revision was endorsed by the Executive Council and Executive Board, which consists of the pilot representatives you elected to consider any updates to our policies and procedures.

Before you cast your vote, I am asking you to review this letter and the attached information points. Additionally, ALPA’s vice president of administration, Capt. Bill Couette, and vice president of finance/treasurer, Capt. Randy Helling, will be taping a video message for you and all ALPA members. This video will explain the reasons behind this recommended change and should help you explain to your pilots why this vote is so important. In case you have any further questions, Captains Couette and Helling are available to discuss this important matter with you.

Before you make a decision, please consider the following points:
  • The Executive Board and Executive Council studied this issue for more than two years before passing this resolution;
  • Making 401(k) deferrals subject to dues will not reduce a pilot’s 401(k) contribution, and there will be no dues on company contributions to 401(k) plans;
  • Current policy does not treat all members the same, both within and between pilot groups, since many already pay dues on their defined-contribution plans;
  • For those pilots affected by this change, the average per-pilot increase in dues would be around $7 per semi-monthly paycheck;
  • Leaving the current provisions in place will cause dues income to further erode as DC plans are consolidated into 401(k) plans;
  • The current policy is too complex for airline payroll departments to administer accurately, and does not permit ALPA to verify what airlines report as income subject to dues;
  • In accordance with Spending Limit Policy, much of the additional dues income will flow back to the MECs who represent most of the affected pilots. These MECs historically receive supplemental funding from the OCF to support their activities; and
  • The additional dues income is integral to preserving existing services.
When we agree to serve as an elected representative within ALPA, we take on the heavy burden of serving our pilots while protecting the long-term health of our union. This vote is a classic example of how that balancing act can challenge us. I believe that the Executive Council and Board did a solid job of weighing all the alternatives and endorsing a change that will minimize the cost to pilots while protecting the financial health of our union. Now the Board of Directors must decide if it agrees that the proposed policy change treats all our members fairly and protects the association. Please review all the information available and cast your vote in accordance with what you view are the best interests of our members.

In Solidarity,

John Prater
 
401(k) DUESABILITY INFORMATION
BACKGROUND
  • Article IX, Section 3, of the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws (CBL) states that all airline income of a member is subject to dues.
  • Section 4 identifies the elements of airline income that are exempt from dues, including 401(k) deferrals when the 401(k) plan is a pilot’s only pension plan. This section was adopted more than 20 years ago when 401(k) plans were largely deferred income plans and most pilots had other plans through which they received company-funded retirement benefits.
  • In their 2002 contract, ATA pilots got a DC plan, which caused their 401(k) deferrals to become subject to dues. The ATA MEC asked the Executive Council to change the CBL to make all 401(k) deferrals exempt from dues.
  • Subsequent to the request from the ATA MEC, the VP-Finance reported to the Executive Council that exempting all 401(k) deferrals would cost ALPA $6 million in annual dues revenue, which in a declining dues environment the Executive Council felt ALPA could not afford if the union was going to preserve the quality and level of service that members receive.
  • The Executive Board directed the Executive Council in September 2006 to create a subcommittee to review all the exemptions outlined in the CBL, Article IX, Section 4.
  • The subcommittee approached this issue with the intent to:
    1. Ensure fairness of ALPA dues structure within pilot groups and across the association;
    2. Simplify contractually-negotiated airline income reporting to ALPA in order to perform the annual dues reconciliation; and
    3. Analyze the effect on ALPA dues income with any change to the exemptions.
  • The subcommittee made several reports to the Executive Council. One recommendation was to eliminate the exemption for 401(k) salary deferrals when the plan is the pilot’s only pension program. This recommendation was unanimously endorsed by the Executive Council and overwhelmingly approved by the May 2008 Executive Board. Since this is a change to the CBL, it requires a two-thirds majority BOD vote.
A MATTER OF FAIRNESS
  • First, it’s about fairness within a pilot group: At an airline where 401(k) income deferrals are exempt from dues, two pilots can fly the same equipment in the same seat and earn the same income. But, if one pilot defers income into a 401(k), he or she pays less in dues than a pilot who does not defer his or her income. Alternatively, at an airline with a frozen defined benefit plan, pilots who are newly hired may be eligible only for the 401(k) plan—not the frozen pension plan. Nevertheless, their 401(k) deferral is subject to dues under current rules, even though the only pension program available to them is the 401(k). This is the only way the provision can be administered because airlines cannot be relied upon to correctly interpret ALPA’s CBL and the airlines are not required to—and therefore do not—report detailed income information to ALPA to verify compliance with ALPA’s CBL.
  • It’s about fairness between pilot groups: A growing number of pilot groups have only defined-contribution plans. Under current provisions, pilots at these airlines can receive the same level of company contributions to the retirement plan and defer the same amount of income within their 401(k)—but pay different dues amounts. How? If the company contribution is into a 401(k), the deferred income contributed by a pilot to such 401(k) is exempt from dues. But if company contributions are into a non-401(k) defined-contribution plan, these contributions are subject to dues.
  • It’s about fairness across the whole union: The current CBL provisions incentivize pilot groups to consolidate retirement plans under a 401(k) umbrella to qualify for the dues exemption. More pilot groups either have consolidated or are planning to consolidate retirement plans within 401(k)s, with company contributions unrelated to employee contributions. This incentive is creating a growing inequity between pilot groups that have consolidated plans and those that do not. The ability of pilot groups to consolidate is affected by factors outside of their control, including the amendable date of their contract, negotiating timelines, and the willingness of their airline to negotiate changes.
IMPACT ON SERVICES
  • The Executive Council subcommittee estimated that in 2007, exempting all 401(k) deferrals would result in roughly $6 million in lost annual revenue.
  • Leaving the current provision in place will put further downward pressure on dues income as pilot groups are incentivized to consolidate DC plans under the 401(k) umbrella. We will eventually lose the amount of dues revenue that would have been lost if the CBL was changed to exempt all 401(k) deferrals from dues.
  • The recent loss of $15 million in dues as a result of losing AAA/AWA, KHA, SYX, ATA, ALO, and CHA has caused ALPA to undertake significant reengineering programs to offset the revenue loss. The resultant revenue loss to the Administrative and Support (A&S, or National) Account is, per policy, 60% or $9 million annually. In response to this, ALPA has already completed a reengineering plan, which has included the reduction of more than 100 staff positions and other cost-saving measures since the events of September 11. ALPA is under further pressure from airline capacity reductions and will have to make additional cuts.
  • Making all 401(k) deferrals subject to dues would result in around $1.5 million in additional annual revenue.
  • Further reductions in dues revenue and concurrent cost/service reductions will have the greatest negative impact on the smaller (Group B) airlines that do not have the MEC financial and internal staff resources of the larger (Group A) airlines.
  • Additional revenue will be flowing back to the MECs that historically require supplemental funding by the OCF and MCF. This is more important today than ever because, as dues revenue declines, Group B airlines will receive less in MEC income under the ALPA Spending Limit Policy, and the amount of funding available in the OCF for supplementary MEC funding shrinks.
  • The average per-pilot increase in dues would be around $7 per paycheck, for those currently not paying dues on income deferred to a 401(k).
  • The additional dues amount to be paid by a pilot have been estimated as follows:
• Annual income of $25,000 or less: $.81/paycheck • $25,000 - $50,000 $2/paycheck • $50,000 - $75,000 $5/paycheck • $75,000 - $100,000 $7/paycheck • $100,000 - $125,000 $9/paycheck • $125,000 - $150,000 $11/paycheck • $150,000 - $175,000 $11/paycheck
 
Thank you, Nevets.

I still can't believe so many pilots think of their union, ALPA, as some wizard of oz like entity hiding behind the curtain in DC.

ATTENTION PILOTS: YOU are ALPA. It is your union. You are wasting your own damn money if you misuse ALPA pac cards. You are wasting your own damn money if you participate in some ridiculous non-payment protest that will only end with you either paying everything owned or losing your job. This is not ALPA money, this is your money which you pay to fund your union so they can do work for you. What do you intend to accomplish by wasting your own money?

Now, although I think there is a great deal of misunderstanding around the whole 401(k) thing, any pilot is free to not like it. It is then your job to let your status rep know your opinion, and then your status rep's job to represent the majority interest. THAT is the way to address this.

Intentionally wasting your own unions money will not assist your union in fullfilling your unions fiduciary responsibilities.

Grow up and use your heads.
 
Civil disobedience is for causes in which the effected people are not a part of the process. For example the Montgomery Bus Boycott, in AL in 1956.

However, ALPA members are a part of the process. They simply choose to remain aloof....
 
Civil disobedience is for causes in which the effected people are not a part of the process. For example the Montgomery Bus Boycott, in AL in 1956.

However, ALPA members are a part of the process. They simply choose to remain aloof....

Civil Disobedience is quickly cured with the firetruck hose. A most effective remedy.
 
Civil disobedience is for causes in which the effected people are not a part of the process. For example the Montgomery Bus Boycott, in AL in 1956.

However, ALPA members are a part of the process. They simply choose to remain aloof....

I'm interested in hearing your theory of how the membership of ALPA can FORCE their reps to vote no on this through "participation". Shall they all recall all of their reps before next week's vote?

Sounds to me like ALPA membership are NOT part of this process. It was rammed through the leadership by the executive council and hoped the membership wouldn't even find out until it was all over.

So you can stop making excuses for Herndon and blaming the membership for all the problems through a lack of involvement.
 
I'm interested in hearing your theory of how the membership of ALPA can FORCE their reps to vote no on this through "participation". Shall they all recall all of their reps before next week's vote?

I did my part and talked to the reps and explained the reasons why I was against it. That's pretty much all I can do. If a rep votes against the wishes of their pilot group, then sure a recall is in order -- there's definitely a political risk in going against your constituency. But, a recall is hard to pull off and you have to get a lot of people organized, which is tough at the regional level.

However, if this thing passes and our reps vote against it, it's just us being on a losing side of the battle. If people want to seriously vote out ALPA over $5/paycheck then they're crazy, IMO. There are bigger battles to be fought.
 
Civil Disobedience is quickly cured with the firetruck hose. A most effective remedy.

For the current date. However, it usually motivates more of the like people to show up in the following weeks and months....

In America firetruck hoses are only catalyst for change.


I'm interested in hearing your theory of how the membership of ALPA can FORCE their reps to vote no on this through "participation". Shall they all recall all of their reps before next week's vote?

Recall elections usually occur for two reasons:

1. The elected rep deserves to be recalled due to poor performance. (this 401k issue is not one as the logic for tapping pre tax 401k money is sound)

2. The membership simply doesn't have political SA. They go from aloofness to instant gratification of change via recall. IOW it is an emotional action.

Sounds to me like ALPA membership are NOT part of this process. It was rammed through the leadership by the executive council and hoped the membership wouldn't even find out until it was all over.

An inaccurate statement on your part and only shows your lack of information on the issue. You are not aloof are you? :)

So you can stop making excuses for Herndon and blaming the membership for all the problems through a lack of involvement.

The democratic process in alive and well in your airline career. It is your choice to participate. In other threads I've explained what how the membership can initiate a grassroots movement in this case.

The logic is understood as to why ALPA wants to do this, and I agree with that logic. However, I don't think ALPA should go through with this right now. The problem is the membership is too aloof to understand why the change is being made. Since they don't care to understand why and simply use crewroom gossip the political damage to ALPA might be worse.

If only we could have an engaged, informed and savvy membership. But don't fret too much.. participation in other democratic organizations such as HOAs and our gov't itself are lacking as well...

American Democracy: the ideals and much different than the practice. Nothing worthwhile comes easy... there is not much easy about democracy.... but I'd rather work at democracy than be subjected to unilateral rules of gov't, corporations and yes unions.


I did my part and talked to the reps and explained the reasons why I was against it. That's pretty much all I can do.

Wrong. How passionate are you about the issue? Are you willing to draft a resolution? Bring it to your LEC? What about a website? A petition? Leaflets? Crewroom chat sessions... All of this and more is available to us and we have the right to do so.. In non union companies your manager would simply tell you to stand down. In non democratic countries you go to jail. These our our democratic rights. Paid for in blood by many since 1776. Corny... perhaps.. but true...


If a rep votes against the wishes of their pilot group, then sure a recall is in order -- there's definitely a political risk in going against your constituency. But, a recall is hard to pull off and you have to get a lot of people organized, which is tough at the regional level.

Agreed. Is it.... what it is? Is it the reps fault? Or the aloof regional pilots? What if the regional pilots were organized and vocal. The reps would have to listen. When the membership doesn't speak the reps have carte blanc....

However, if this thing passes and our reps vote against it, it's just us being on a losing side of the battle.

Agreed. What is the next level of democracy? What else do we have?


If people want to seriously vote out ALPA over $5/paycheck then they're crazy, IMO. There are bigger battles to be fought.

Foreign ownership/Control....


If we don't protect our jobs and careers, the pay cuts from not having ALPA representation will be much much more than a measly $5.
 
Can anyone defend why ALPA needs more dues? Have they earned it? Has the President taken a paycut?

It's easier to tax a second year regional FO more than for the President to take a paycut.....

Kinda hard to ask a second year FO to pay more while the President of ALPA makes over $400,000 per year plus gets an ALPA pension plan....
 
Can anyone defend why ALPA needs more dues? Have they earned it? Has the President taken a paycut?

Perhaps anyone one of the ALPA delegates from the appropriate BOD that voted for the resolution that authorized the compensation package...can.

It's easier to tax a second year regional FO more than for the President to take a paycut.....

Once agian, the Board of Directors who voted on ALPA President compensation will vote on the 401k/dues structure...

The Board of Directors are elected by the very members that may or may not be effected by this new dues structure. Traditionally, about 1/3 of said members bother to particapte in democractic elections for the BOD members.




Kinda hard to ask a second year FO to pay more while the President of ALPA makes over $400,000 per year plus gets an ALPA pension plan....

A member will be effected by this via a represenative, that there is a 2/3 chance that said member didn't bother to particapte to vote for...

How's that for misrepresentational democracy...


May the members rise to fend for themselves and ensure the will of the people....

This fall is another one of those pesky and annoying Board of Directors meetings.
 
Do the ALPA National officers still get their brand new Luxury automobile every 2 years on our dime? Time to start trimming some of the fat in ALPA. WAY too much thriftless spending going on and we all know it.
 
Do the ALPA National officers still get their brand new Luxury automobile every 2 years on our dime? Time to start trimming some of the fat in ALPA. WAY too much thriftless spending going on and we all know it.

ALPA President gets a Lincoln Town Car.....

Just like govt.....easier to raise taxes than to cut fat.....
 
ALPA President gets a Lincoln Town Car.....

Could he afford a Lincoln on his CAL pay?

What should he wear to Congressional testimony? Wrangler jeans and shop shirt with his name embroidered?

Just like govt.....easier to raise taxes than to cut fat.....

Just like gov't.... the voters don't vote yet they expect the elected to know what they want...

Face it... democracy is dead.... members want the benefits but they don't want to work for it, let alone vote...... easier to blame those one didn't bother to vote for...
 
Could he afford a Lincoln on his CAL pay?

What should he wear to Congressional testimony? Wrangler jeans and shop shirt with his name embroidered?



Just like gov't.... the voters don't vote yet they expect the elected to know what they want...

Face it... democracy is dead.... members want the benefits but they don't want to work for it, let alone vote...... easier to blame those one didn't bother to vote for...

Does he need a brand new Town Car? Also, it doesn't take a $400K salary to look sharp in front of congress and I'm sure they could care less about what kind of vehicle he pulls up in.
 
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Does he need a brand new Town Car?

Nope. If bothers you so much then raise the issue thru the democratic process.





Also, it doesn't take a $400K salary to look sharp in front of congress and I'm sure they could care less about what kind of vehicle he pulls up in.

Can you reference the 400K value?

Should he expense his suits? Our uniforms are....
 
Pay based on average book rates, top three ALPA carriers $295,816 ($298.19/hr at 82.67 hours per month)

Presidential Override at 26% of above $76,912

Total Base Compensation $372,728

National Officer Service Allowance 2003 (adjusted for CPI) $40,000

Total Pay $412,728

Pension 5% per year of service, max 60% of Total Base Compensation, providing for single premium annuity commencing at age 55 or termination of office whichever is later. 8 yrs service = 40% X $372,728 = $149,091.20 per year. 12 years service = 60% X $372,728 = $223,636.80 per year.

If the National Officer maintains a primary residence outside the Washington DC area and has not received a relocation allowance, shall be eligible to receive a national Officer Dislocation Allowance. President, Housing Incumbent $4,500 (New $5,750) per month. Meals $1,500 per month. Travel & Incidental $1,500 per month.

Automobiles, President- new Lincoln LS or similar cost American/North American made automobile every two years. All costs including aquisition costs(lease or purchase), maintenance, insurance, tags and vehicle related taxes are to be paid by the Association.
 
ALPA Board of Directors Considers Constitution Change

Starting July 28, the ALPA Board of Directors will be voting on a change to the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws. If approved by two-thirds of the BOD, this change would make all pilot salary deferrals to 401(k) pension plans subject to dues. This would replace existing policy—currently pilot contributions to 401(k) plans are exempt from dues only if the 401(k) is the pilot’s only pension plan—and would both clarify ALPA policy and ensure that it applies consistently to members across the Association. The proposed revision was strongly endorsed by the Executive Council and Executive Board. Please watch this video outlining why this vote matters to all ALPA members.
 
An inaccurate statement on your part and only shows your lack of information on the issue. You are not aloof are you? :)

Rez, I am not going to engage you like to others, because it is painfully obvious that your inflated sense of self prohibits you from hearing any viewpoint other then your own. So there's really no point in debating with someone who can never be wrong. Go ahead and chalk it up to my "inexperience" in this industry and with the issues, or my "aloofness", seeing as you know so much about me and all... You know, because since I just signed up in March I must be new to the industry, right? :rolleyes:

Go ahead and fix ALPA for everybody. We're all counting on you.

Smooches
~BOX
 
Rez, I am not going to engage you like to others, because it is painfully obvious that your inflated sense of self prohibits you from hearing any viewpoint other then your own. So there's really no point in debating with someone who can never be wrong. Go ahead and chalk it up to my "inexperience" in this industry and with the issues, or my "aloofness", seeing as you know so much about me and all... You know, because since I just signed up in March I must be new to the industry, right? :rolleyes:

Go ahead and fix ALPA for everybody. We're all counting on you.

Smooches
~BOX


Note the smily face to indicate a sense of neutrality and not a personal jab...in my quote above...


Look the fact is... our union is a representative democracy. The key to effectiveness is participation and an understanding that elections on the issues will result in up to 49% of the participants unhappy.

But what else are we to do? Reject self government? Embrace socialism/communism/dictatorships.

We have the ability to voice our wishes, wants and needs yet we don't in our union. All while being aloof we expect our (un)elected leadership to "do the right thing, at the right time for the right reason."

Well.....define.. what is right..... it is incredibly subjective... especially when we do not participate.

Communication is the key to any successful relationship....
 
It must be lonely for you, with PCL sent to "Federal Pound Me in the A$$ Prison."
 
We have the ability to voice our wishes, wants and needs yet we don't in our union. All while being aloof we expect our (un)elected leadership to "do the right thing, at the right time for the right reason."

Well.....define.. what is right..... it is incredibly subjective... especially when we do not participate.

Communication is the key to any successful relationship....

The pilots are voicing their wishes on this issue....the overwelming majority don't want their dues to go up...You just don't like what they are saying and once again you blame those who pay the bills....

The problem isn't with the bill payers....it is with the leadership.....
 
The pilots are voicing their wishes on this issue....the overwelming majority don't want their dues to go up...You just don't like what they are saying and once again you blame those who pay the bills....

The problem isn't with the bill payers....it is with the leadership.....

Flightinfo is an "overwhelming majority"?

And,

Why does everyone here sound like Anakin Skywalker?
 
Flightinfo is an "overwhelming majority"?

And,

Why does everyone here sound like Anakin Skywalker?

Actually...no FI has more ALPA supporters than the average crew lounge....This 401k dues increase has done more to fire up pilots than anything I have ever seen.....Typical clueless ALPA politicians can't even see it....then they wonder why pilots don't support them......

Duane Woerth is getting almost 200K a year in ALPA pension and we are going tax second year regional FOs more to pay for it.....Then the cheerleaders wonder why there isn't support for ALPA.....
 
Found on another board. These ALPA National guys need to take a look in the mirror. Every single person there makes more than all of us pilots (Regionals, anyhow):

Duane Woerth President $ 351,186 $ 136,744 $ 487,930
Jalmer Johnson General Manager $ 389,238 $ 4,532 $ 393,770

Bruce York Dir Representation $ 348,955 $ 35,617 $ 384,572
Jonathan Cohen Chief Counsel&dir, Legal $ 366,736 $ 3,213 $ 369,949

Don Skiados Director, Communications $ 306,635 $ 4,752 $ 311,387
Kevin Barnhurst Director, Finance $ 309,429 $ 1,729 $ 311,158

Paul Hallisay Director, Gov't Affairs $ 295,943 $ 6,195 $ 302,138
William Roberts Asst Dir Representation $ 287,391 $ 11,944 $ 299,335

Jim Johnson Managing Attorney, Legal $ 277,013 $ 19,828 $ 296,841
Stephen Crable Asst Dir Representation $ 266,107 $ 17,407 $ 283,514

Seth Rosen Director, Ipsc $ 236,488 $ 46,862 $ 283,350
Keith Hagy Director Eng & Air Safety $ 268,112 $ 4,410 $ 272,522

Jeffrey Small Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 238,517 $ 32,145 $ 270,662
Gene Granof Managing Attorney, Legal $ 264,519 $ 4,443 $ 268,962

Liz Koby Managing Attorney $ 244,656 $ 18,328 $ 262,984
Jerry Anker Managing Attorney, Legal $ 261,212 $ 1,764 $ 262,976

Jim Wilson Asst Dir Representation $ 251,189 $ 11,582 $ 262,771
Dave Vance Director, Retir & Ins $ 257,048 $ 3,391 $ 260,439

Ana Mcahron-schulz Director,econ&fin Anal $ 211,946 $ 27,592 $ 239,538
Bob Christy Mgr, Economic&financial $ 211,096 $ 23,513 $ 234,609
Robert Nichols Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 225,090 $ 6,477 $ 231,567
Patrick Brennaman Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 226,442 $ 3,021 $ 229,463
Russ Bailey Senior Attorney $ 223,322 $ 2,825 $ 226,147
Stephen Nagrotsky Sr Contract Administrator $ 209,270 $ 7,402 $ 216,672
Russell Woody Sr Benefits Attorney $ 205,382 $ 10,019 $ 215,401
Richard Domholt Sr Contract Administrator $ 200,764 $ 12,612 $ 213,376
Charlie Murphy Director, It & Service $ 208,715 $ 1,047 $ 209,762
Marcus Migliore Senior Attorney $ 203,160 $ 852 $ 204,012
Clay Warner Senior Attorney $ 201,639 $ 1,900 $ 203,539
Bob Lipsey Pension Inv Coordinator $ 181,595 $ 18,251 $ 199,846
Art La Flamme Sr Representative $ 184,738 $ 11,416 $ 196,154
Steve Hodgson Sr Field Representative $ 180,438 $ 9,282 $ 189,720
John Schleder Sr Contract Administrator $ 183,983 $ 3,517 $ 187,500
Rob Plunkett Sr Contract Administrator $ 184,118 $ 1,422 $ 185,540
William Elliott Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 180,241 $ 4,396 $ 184,637
Frank Voyack Sr Legislative Rep $ 180,939 $ 3,392 $ 184,331
Jeffrey Macdonald Supv, Collective Bargain $ 165,443 $ 17,421 $ 182,864
Brendan Kenny Sr Legislative Rep $ 181,339 $ 1,425 $ 182,764
Art Luby Sr Contract Administrator $ 175,308 $ 5,955 $ 181,263
Dennis Dolan First Vice-president $ 0 $ 180,874 $ 180,874
Jane Schraft Sr Contract Administrator $ 177,005 $ 3,222 $ 180,227
Betty Ginsburg Senior Attorney $ 177,944 $ 2,106 $ 180,050
Victoria Fortuna Sr Benefits Attorney $ 176,673 $ 2,769 $ 179,442
Jim Medley Mgr, Systems Development $ 174,138 $ 188 $ 174,326
David Holtzman Sr Contract Administrator $ 165,286 $ 8,232 $ 173,518
Suzanne Kalfus Senior Attorney $ 168,913 $ 2,692 $ 171,605
Gary Dinunno Supv,airline Pilot Mag $ 170,308 $ 1,000 $ 171,308 <-------- This guy makes this much to put together the little magazine you get at home
Kevin Fitzpatrick Sr. Contract Admin. $ 170,423 $ 0 $ 170,423
Richard Harrell Manager, It-dev Sup $ 168,590 $ 1,432 $ 170,022
Jerry Wright Mgr, Security&human Perf $ 166,031 $ 2,763 $ 168,794
James Connolly Field Representative $ 160,354 $ 5,300 $ 165,654
Joan (jody) Bettenburg Sr Contract Admin $ 164,226 $ 1,230 $ 165,456
Darrell Green Sr Contract Administrator $ 159,038 $ 4,844 $ 163,882
Bill Edmunds Human Performance Spec $ 157,924 $ 5,051 $ 162,975
Paul Rice Vice President Admin $ 0 $ 162,735 $ 162,735
Bob Striegel Sr Staff Engineer $ 155,205 $ 5,990 $ 161,195
Don Mcclure Air Safety Coordinator $ 147,790 $ 13,346 $ 161,136
John Dean Contract Administrator $ 147,398 $ 12,676 $ 160,074
Bill Phaneuf Sr Staff Engineer $ 155,108 $ 3,746 $ 158,854
Richard Pavel Field Representative $ 150,947 $ 7,078 $ 158,025
Chris Baum Mgr, Accident Inv $ 154,712 $ 1,843 $ 156,555
Christopher Beebe Vice President Finance $ 0 $ 155,360 $ 155,360
Everett Barber Contract Administrator $ 147,946 $ 6,640 $ 154,586
Jim Lobsenz Senior Attorney $ 152,105 $ 2,146 $ 154,251
Margarita Lorenzetti Manager, Finance & Acct $ 151,842 $ 434 $ 152,276
Sandra Pusey Supv, Product Support $ 149,518 $ 0 $ 149,518
David Krieger Lead Financial Analyst $ 138,125 $ 11,299 $ 149,424
Andrew Shostack Contract Administrator $ 143,133 $ 4,625 $ 147,758
Charlie Bergman Mgr, Air Safety & Ops $ 142,968 $ 4,282 $ 147,250
Kelly Collie Emp Dev & Comm Coord $ 143,850 $ 2,207 $ 146,057
Lee Veid Supervisor, Applications $ 145,607 $ 0 $ 145,607
Terry Saturday Sr Contr Administrator $ 137,865 $ 7,726 $ 145,591
Jack Parrack Enrolled Actuary $ 141,749 $ 3,146 $ 144,895
Ken Cooper Asst Dir Representation $ 131,651 $ 11,847 $ 143,498
Marie Schwartz Manager, Communications $ 137,492 $ 5,191 $ 142,683
Joan Gallahan Mgr, Memb & Council Srvs $ 142,236 $ 309 $ 142,545
Bill Despins Lead Economic Analyst $ 128,759 $ 13,619 $ 142,378
Percy Toop Contract Administrator $ 127,122 $ 13,873 $ 140,995
Jan Steenblik Technical Editor $ 136,676 $ 3,246 $ 139,922
David Hannah Contract Administrator $ 133,971 $ 4,641 $ 138,612
Peter Janhunen Manager, Communications $ 136,746 $ 1,485 $ 138,231
Linda Rafii Sr Benefits Specialist $ 132,763 $ 5,334 $ 138,097
Trai Nguyen Sr Network Integrator $ 135,624 $ 969 $ 136,593
Brent Milligan Enrolled Actuary $ 130,764 $ 5,517 $ 136,281
Kelly Hardy Sr Gov Affairs Spec $ 135,836 $ 0 $ 135,836
Mike Cranford Sr Systems Integrator $ 135,680 $ 0 $ 135,680
Helen Wong-scruggs Systems Analyst $ 135,544 $ 0 $ 135,544
John Mazor Sr. Communications Spec $ 135,236 $ 67 $ 135,303
Chris Mccarthy Manager, It Op&services $ 131,905 $ 300 $ 132,205
Joe Bracken Sr Staff Engineer $ 130,442 $ 1,588 $ 132,030
Rod Gardner Supv, Network Sys&ser $ 130,954 $ 660 $ 131,614
Amy Alperi Lead Economic Analyst $ 128,960 $ 1,994 $ 130,954
Marcia Eubanks Lead Economic Analyst $ 118,811 $ 11,873 $ 130,684
Michael Huhn Sr Accident Inv Spec $ 129,091 $ 1,335 $ 130,426
Wayne Klocke Contract Administrator $ 129,277 $ 1,098 $ 130,375
Daniel Froehlich Contract Administrator $ 123,751 $ 4,941 $ 128,692
James Andresakes Sr Security Specialist $ 126,867 $ 1,798 $ 128,665
John Gaiser Sr Benefits Specialist $ 126,412 $ 0 $ 126,412
Neal Davis Contract Administrator $ 121,703 $ 4,612 $ 126,315
Hong Lee Sr Data Admin Analyst $ 125,866 $ 0 $ 125,866
Cynthia Holloway Hr Administrator $ 125,843 $ 0 $ 125,843
Bert Leger Contract Administrator $ 108,952 $ 15,943 $ 124,895
Tom Kilpatrick Contract Administrator $ 119,483 $ 4,687 $ 124,170
Michael Welsh Contract Administrator $ 122,438 $ 1,620 $ 124,058
Bob Hall Staff Engineer $ 122,236 $ 1,681 $ 123,917
Richard Parker Analyst/programmer $ 123,814 $ 0 $ 123,814
Jan Briel Director, Human Resources $ 122,209 $ 904 $ 123,113 <-------- One of the highest paying HR jobs out there, for its size.
Elaine Grittner Sr Mec Benefits Spec $ 122,558 $ 382 $ 122,940
Janie Miller Systems Analyst $ 121,542 $ 224 $ 121,766
Steve Corrie Sr Staff Engineer $ 119,131 $ 2,102 $ 121,233
Paul Girdany Contract Administrator $ 117,047 $ 2,964 $ 120,011
Andrea Griffith Supervisor, Accounting $ 119,411 $ 57 $ 119,468
Daniel Orfield Contract Administrator $ 116,354 $ 2,966 $ 119,320
Marta Wagner Attorney $ 118,616 $ 523 $ 119,139
Lisa Noyes Supervisor,pub Services $ 118,165 $ 130 $ 118,295
Lap Nguyen Systems Analyst $ 117,041 $ 0 $ 117,041
Mark Kovach Supv General Accounting $ 114,654 $ 0 $ 114,654
Christopher Brown Contract Administrator $ 111,306 $ 2,486 $ 113,792
Mike Carney Manager, Real Estate $ 112,568 $ 1,142 $ 113,710 <-------- ??
Tina Savopoulos Systems Analyst $ 113,287 $ 0 $ 113,287
William Dengler Sr Support Serv Analyst $ 113,000 $ 0 $ 113,000
Mark Angolia Comm Production Spec $ 99,747 $ 13,037 $ 112,784
Anthony Brown Systems Analyst $ 112,399 $ 0 $ 112,399
Rebecca Rong Analyst/programmer $ 111,961 $ 99 $ 112,060
Pam Quayle Supv, Meeting Planning $ 110,350 $ 785 $ 111,135 <-------- $111k for meeting planning!
Pierre Huggins Staff Engineer $ 109,390 $ 1,082 $ 110,472
Rick Kessel Staff Engineer $ 109,653 $ 644 $ 110,297
Sherry Taylor Benefits Specialist $ 106,174 $ 2,862 $ 109,036
Andrew Brenner Contract Administrator $ 105,017 $ 3,481 $ 108,498
Jan Redden Mgr, Gov Bodies Support $ 107,392 $ 127 $ 107,519
Tyler Home Supv Membership Services $ 106,865 $ 225 $ 107,090
Karen Browne-fleck Sr Benefits Specialist $ 92,338 $ 14,375 $ 106,713
Mark Cato Staff Engineer $ 101,968 $ 4,243 $ 106,211
Karen Madkour Travel Specialist $ 104,774 $ 1,203 $ 105,977 <-------- what the heck is a travel specialist, but sounds pretty good at $105k!
Jennifer Crichton Supervisor, Accounting $ 105,115 $ 0 $ 105,115
Eric Iverson Contract Administrator $ 101,111 $ 3,862 $ 104,973
Troy Englert Sr Economic Analyst $ 103,172 $ 1,637 $ 104,809
Melanie Howey Supervisor Mec/lec $ 101,426 $ 2,954 $ 104,380
Blair Donovan Operations Analyst $ 104,094 $ 224 $ 104,318
Michael Fredericks Security Specialist $ 102,533 $ 1,664 $ 104,197
Bill Ford Design/production Editor $ 103,380 $ 679 $ 104,059
Corey Stephens Staff Engineer $ 101,265 $ 2,580 $ 103,845
James Moody Sr Communications Spec $ 103,777 $ 0 $ 103,777
Richard Bartsch Sys Integrator/analyst $ 98,975 $ 3,888 $ 102,863
Daniel Ryan Systems Integrator $ 101,563 $ 243 $ 101,806
Biscuit Gobezie Analyst/programmer $ 101,604 $ 0 $ 101,604
Kevin Comstock Staff Engineer $ 99,426 $ 1,927 $ 101,353
Clinton Burner Systems Integrator $ 100,448 $ 370 $ 100,818

and the list goes on...
 
It must be lonely for you, with PCL sent to "Federal Pound Me in the A$$ Prison."

I'm back! And as usual, Rez looks reasonable and intelligent while Joey looks like a mindless radical. I don't believe that this issue should pass at the BOD, but I also think Joey and others are being a wee bit melodramatic about it.
 
I'm back! And as usual, Rez looks reasonable and intelligent while Joey looks like a mindless radical. I don't believe that this issue should pass at the BOD, but I also think Joey and others are being a wee bit melodramatic about it.
Frickin' hell...can you please get yourself banned again? It was pretty peaceful without you.
 
I'm back! And as usual, Rez looks reasonable and intelligent while Joey looks like a mindless radical. I don't believe that this issue should pass at the BOD, but I also think Joey and others are being a wee bit melodramatic about it.

Watch your cornhole, Peter-man!
 

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