Alaska Arbitration

[Freight Dog]

I'm really sorry. The first thing I thought of when I saw the new payscale was, oh no, Aloha wages. It looks exactly like what those guys recently VOLUNTARILY accepted in bankruptcy. I never thought I'd see this happen to Alaska, a profitable carrier. Keep your chins up, something good has to come out of this somewhere. Hopefully it won't be soley for your management's pockets.

Actually, the new Alaska payscale resembles Aloha's ATSB loan payscale. We took 10% more with Chapter 11 forgoing our raises this year and next year, so actually it's more like 14%.

Sad.... but after all the chest thumping of leaving to JB, SWA, UPS, FDX... no one will leave, and soon enough this will become an accepted norm.

 

[mach none]

I would recommend getting the 737 type and going to SWA. A real airline that cares about employee moral. I just wonder how long before they ask for concessions and continue the flushing of the toilet.

My guess is we buy someone before the year is over. Any bets on Frontier or Aloha.

 

[DeLUSION]

Time for a REAL pilot union across the board.

 

[flx757]

I am also in shock. I also did not sleep last night. In fact, I hopped a plane to catch up with my wife. And even though she hasn't seen me in a couple of weeks, being the great friend that she is, she just sat and let me vent.

I am totally re-evaluating my remaining productive years. It is looking more and more like they will not be at Alaska. In fact, the most likely place they will be is outside this industry altogether. I, for one, have simply had enough and am "going fishing".

This will be a 100% certainty if the UPS "good" letter shows up at the house over the next couple of weeks. Guaranteed. Have guitar and will travel, and travel, and travel. As far from Angle Lake and the Flight Ops building as possible.

Good luck to all. I know this place will NOT be the place to be in the next few years. It will only get much worse, and very ugly.

BTW...Freight Dog. Ya want my phone #? Proof of your "chest thumping" theory? The interview was the second week of April. Waiting on the letter. If it is a "yea", then we'll see who is "chest thumping".

flx757....out......

 

[CapnVegetto]

Dam shame. Yet another greedy management team that kills pilot wages while still sticking millions in their pocket. The public REALLY needs to be educated about this. Can't ALPA do something about that?

 

[tico]

Actually, the new Alaska payscale resembles Aloha's ATSB loan payscale. We took 10% more with Chapter 11 forgoing our raises this year and next year, so actually it's more like 14%.

Sad.... but after all the chest thumping of leaving to JB, SWA, UPS, FDX... no one will leave, and soon enough this will become an accepted norm.

Not to be an a-hole, but we have been profitable and on paper when we are not it is just that on paper....So it is different for us....We were not facing liquidation, as you guys or the rest of the crowd. So bear with us just a bit

 

[SirFlyALot]

Since it sounds like 26% is simply an average of the pay cuts, does anyone have access to the official new payscale?

 

[Singlecoil]

New Alaska rates:

CA FO
1 130.42 35.16
2 131.31 61.67
3 132.61 72.99
4 133.91 80.15
5 135.17 85.66
6 136.53 87.89
7 138.18 89.47
8 141.12 91.07
9 144.19 93.07
10 148.34 94.69
11 150.59 95.94
12 153.79 96.83

 

[ironwedge]

Any idea what (if anything) happened to benefits? - A/B -Plan, 401K, medical benefits, etc....? Was there anything new in the contract to close the gap on pay like QOL changes?

- Thanks for any info

 

[tico]

Captain Wage Rates (5/1/05)
step current proposed % change
1 183.81 130.42 -29
2 185.06 131.42 -29
3 185.20 132.61 -28.8
4 187.44 133.91 -28.6
5 188.56 135.17 -28.3
6 189.69 136.53 -28.0
7 190.96 138.18 -27.6
8 191.98 141.12 -26.5
9 193.37 144.19 -25.4
10 194.46 148.34 -23.7
11 195.55 150.59 -23.0
12 196.80 153.79 -21.9

First Officer Wage Rates (5/1/05)
step current proposed % change
1 52.05 35.16 -32.4
2 91.29 61.67 -32.4
3 111.18 72.99 -34.3
4 117.51 80.15 -31.8
5 120.37 85.66 -28.8
6 124.96 87.89 -29.7
7 127.90 89.47 -30.0
8 130.62 91.07 -30.3
9 133.72 93.07 -30.4
10 136.49 94.69 -30.6
11 137.62 95.94 -30.3
12 138.84 96.83 -30.3

This is the matrix that we are using as of today......