AirTran thoughts on Kelly's Disposal of SL10

[texman]

Those are your assumptions. How confident are you that they will be met?

Thats is what they are, assumptions. I don't believe anything any more. So many changes and uncertainty being a Jr guy, it has wore me out. I am just wondering again for the 100th time how this is going to go down. Anybody's guess is better than mine. Like Fireman said earlier, stickers and two week indoc. SL10/ and our cba not violated. The SWA pilots are starting to get restless.

 

[scoreboardII]

Like Fireman said earlier, stickers and two week indoc. SL10/ and our cba not violated. QUOTE]Except for that pesky FAA saying you can't just do it that way.

 

[ATLplt]

SWA pilots are starting to get restless.

Welcome to the club. Membership is growing. Maybe it's time to start collecting dues to supplement the AirTran pilots when nearly 40 percent of us are on reserve this fall.

 

[Ty Webb]

And 'new' training for the RSW pilots that want to bid the remaining 717? Still sounds like a cluster with extra training cost.

There won't be any seats to bid, as I understand it. No flush bid.

I'm also betting on 20-30 international 737's on 1/1/2015, but who knows?

 

[texman]

Like Fireman said earlier, stickers and two week indoc. SL10/ and our cba not violated. QUOTE]Except for that pesky FAA saying you can't just do it that way.

Oh yea, forgot that one.

 

[Citrusflyer]

I'm not sure why any of you are surprised. I said this almost 2 months ago...

^^^^^ THAT ^^^^^^

There will be 36 717's after 2015. The last e-mail we got form BJ stated 41 737's would stay on the AT side until 2014 (when they expect to get Int'l ops going - so it could be later?). Now it's down to simple math, math no one believes until the great SWAPA says its true. There is no facility that can convert 41 airplanes to SWA in a single calendar year. Not to mention the training of the almost 400 737 pilots (added to the 350 717 pilots from the 36 airplanes left over after 2015). I doubt the SW training dep't can get that many through in one year.

Again, it's a 'math' problem. But I guess it wont be official until SWAPA says its so, huh?

 

[humveedriver]

And 'new' training for the RSW pilots that want to bid the remaining 717? Still sounds like a cluster with extra training cost.

There would not be any 717 vacancies for those RSW pilots to bid. So no extra training costs.

 

[FIREMAN]

Oh yea, forgot that one.

An indoc class, new paint and rearranging of pax seats is what the FAA has already approved. Don't think the FAA really gives a hoot about the color or how meany seats are in the back.

Or SWA could go ahead and paint and send the crews for 36 aircraft across now as according to the plan already approved by the FAA. That would give them 2 to 2.5 years as a SWA airplane.

 

[redflyer65]

There would not be any 717 vacancies for those RSW pilots to bid. So no extra training costs.

What happens if the FAT guys bid off of 717 to the 737? After Jan 1, it's a free for all. Whatever your seniority can hold right? Will there be 'seat/equipment lock' by the company?

 

[redflyer65]

Those are your assumptions. How confident are you that they will be met?

Part of his assumption comes from the staffing letter this week...

NO HIRING for 2013. So basically just absorbing the retirements for next year.