AirTran pilots will own the SW upgrades

[PCL_128]

Federal law be damned, huh? What a frickin' idiot.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Federal law be damned, huh? What a frickin' idiot.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showpost.php?p=2486484&postcount=29

 

[Roomwithaview]

Well, you a hard liner for sure lol, I like the part about "Bond McAsskill be damned." I guess it takes a hard-ass to disregard Federal law lol.
Personally i think you'll get your day in Federal court as the next group will probably want to test that law rather than cave like our NC and pilot group did. Something to think about anyways.

I damn sure don't wanna be standing next to you in a buffet line I might get a fork stuck in my hand

Yeah, we've never overturned or fought bad laws in this country like:

Right to choose
Gun rights
Slavery
Egregious use of eminent domain
Voting

Let's just sit back and let the government control every aspect of our lives. As many a swapa rep said to me, "it's only seniority"

 

[slaquer5]

Federal law be damned, huh? What a frickin' idiot.

Why do you think the world has so many lawyers


The law can be interpreted in many different ways .


But then again PCL you know that .

I don't like giving you compliments,but you are very sharp.

 

[Roomwithaview]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_repealed_legislation

Get back to me. You might be there a while.

 

[PCL_128]

Why do you think the world has so many lawyers


The law can be interpreted in many different ways .

Oh, I'd love to hear how you "interpret" MB differently.

 

[PCL_128]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_repealed_legislation

Get back to me. You might be there a while.

There's a difference between repealing a law through the legislative process and simply choosing to ignore it like a criminal, you dolt.

 

[Roomwithaview]

There's a difference between repealing a law through the legislative process and simply choosing to ignore it like a criminal, you dolt.

Sniff sniff? What's that smell? Did an insignificant person just enter the room? It smells like someone's been drinking Pawtucket patriot ale.

 

[Kermit_D_Frog]

No ********************. Swapa should have grown some balls and fought to overturn this stupid law rather than rolling over and pissing all over themselves. That doesn't mean I'm sure it could happen, but the longer we tie this BS up in court and the harder we make a MERGER for el hefe' and his little organ grinder monkey, the more likely we won't have a repeat.

By the way.. Go away Peter Griffin. Don't you have anything better to do? Maybe a brewery tour with your dog or something?

 

[Nindiri]

I damn sure don't wanna be standing next to you in a buffet line I might get a fork stuck in my hand

Best line in this thread. :laugh:

 

[freightdogfred]

Yeah, we've never overturned or fought bad laws in this country like:

Right to choose
Gun rights
Slavery
Egregious use of eminent domain
Voting

Let's just sit back and let the government control every aspect of our lives. As many a swapa rep said to me, "it's only seniority"

So you're equating MB legislation with these others, such as slavery and voting. Interesting argument to propose to the justices, Lol. Dunno if it will fly. MB was enacted to prevent exactly what happened, the larger group steamrollering the smaller group. It was just never allowed to play out as designed. But I've been involved in enough litigation to know that justice is sold by the pound, and deeper pockets usually prevail so your plan may have some merit.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Just out of curiousity, what do you propose, that they propose? Let's say, hypothetically, SWA attempts a buyout of Hawaiian. What is your idea of how it should go down, in terms of an ISL? Let's say you're the NC chair.

My guess is that there will be a negotiated deal and the HA MEC will not let the membership see it. Then GK will threaten to get rid of the 717 and walla........a negotiated deal!!

Whaddayathink?

 

[waveflyer]

http://thehill.com/policy/transport...nts-press-other-members-to-resolve-union-flap

Just remember, mccaskill bond was born from this:

The flights attendants say McCaskill has reneged on a promise to help them win a retroactive application of the 2007 law that requires seniority in airline mergers to be determined by employees’ original date of hire.

McCaskill wrote a letter to the APFA union in 2007 promising to address the “recall rights” of the former TWA workers, many of whom were furloughed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, in a funding bill for the Federal Aviation Administration.

But in the same letter, dated Aug. 3, 2007, McCaskill said such a legislative effort would “not affect the seniority rights of employees, and it is not my intention to do so.”

Despite that proclamation, however, the former TWA flight attendants say that McCaskill’s office has characterized what they argue are changes in her positions on the seniority issue as misrepresentations of her statements.

“In light of persistent misrepresentations, alongside conduct that has been consistently unprofessional, inappropriate and hostile — including appalling behavior by several who claim to be leaders among the former TWA flight attendants and their consultant — the senator will not engage in this intra-union dispute nor continue discussions regarding the issue,” a policy staffer for McCaskill wrote in an email that was provided to The Hill by the former TWA employees.

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So tell me air tran- how much seniority would you have lost with a straight date of hire integration?

 

[PCL_128]

So tell me air tran- how much seniority would you have lost with a straight date of hire integration?

A lot less than we ended up losing.

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

PCL why do you care, you're not moving over are you? Wal-Mart need greeters or Home Depot

 

[PCL_128]

PCL why do you care, you're not moving over are you? Wal-Mart need greeters or Home Depot

Why do you numbnuts keep asking the same question that's been answered repeatedly? Are you mentally challenged?

You should keep in mind that Wal Mart greeter thing for when you retire, though. The people of Wal Mart are also your passengers, so you'll feel right at home.

 

[Quiet Flight]

PCL, you're not really planning on making the jump to good ole SWA are you? After all the garbage you spewed out of that doughnut hole of yours that would be a pretty gutless move. However, not at all surprising for a "man" of your integrity. Don't get me wrong, there are a few (zero) folks here eagerly anticipating your arrival.

 

[PropPiedmont]

Wouldn't the prudent plan be to transition over, fail training, then sue?

 

[scoreboardII]

I bet his answer is to transition, sit for two months waiting training, then get through all the training, take sick time, then vacation, then medical out.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

<-- still shops at Walmart.

 

[redflyer65]

I bet his answer is to transition, sit for two months waiting training, then get through all the training, take sick time, then vacation, then medical out.

He's one double cheeseburger away from not passing his medical now.

And as long as we continue to make quarter over quarter profits (year after year) that includes big profit sharing deposits, I say welcome aboard to anyone that wants to come along.

 

[Quiet Flight]

I bet his answer is to transition, sit for two months waiting training, then get through all the training, take sick time, then vacation, then medical out.

Judging by the rate at which Jabba the PCL crushes chilli dogs and Twinkies, the "medical out" piece should be here with staggering speed.

At the end of the day, he'll transition. And he'll stay. Complaining all the while that 4th tier AT was the end all be all to commercial aviation while secretly realizing what a gift he lucked into. Funny part is, he still doesn't meet the minimum standard. Not by a mile. Guess he'll take comfort in that fact by blowing all the extra coin at IHOP and Five Guys.

:smash:

Just noticed PCL_128 has over 13800 posts. Good lord dude. Sad. Just terribly sad.

Can you beat Cartman in Warcraft yet?

 

[Phlintstone]

Serious question...

I just got a Fedex pkg from SWAPA, basically saying please pay us dues as we will represent you soon. I've got no problem with that as I'd rather pay anyone other than ALPA. It is asking me to select either "Association Dues," or "Agency Shop Fees." It is the same percentage so what is the difference?

Phred

 

[Roomwithaview]

Check Association

Serious question...

I just got a Fedex pkg from SWAPA, basically saying please pay us dues as we will represent you soon. I've got no problem with that as I'd rather pay anyone other than ALPA. It is asking me to select either "Association Dues," or "Agency Shop Fees." It is the same percentage so what is the difference?

Phred

And thank swapa for providing an avenue for you to sue swapa as well as alpha if you're at all unhappy with the way the final days of the SLI went down.

:nuts:

 

[redflyer65]

Serious question...

I just got a Fedex pkg from SWAPA, basically saying please pay us dues as we will represent you soon. I've got no problem with that as I'd rather pay anyone other than ALPA. It is asking me to select either "Association Dues," or "Agency Shop Fees." It is the same percentage so what is the difference?

Phred

The difference is being a member of SWAPA (option one), or not being a member but still paying the dues under the Agency Shop regulations.

 

[Phlintstone]

And thank swapa for providing an avenue for you to sue swapa as well as alpha if you're at all unhappy with the way the final days of the SLI went down.

:nuts:

Sorry to disappoint you Princess but I am not the "suing" type. If I am that unhappy, I will just leave. Life is too short and its just a job.

Phred

 

[freightdogfred]

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So tell me air tran- how much seniority would you have lost with a straight date of hire integration?

PCL's right it would have been a whole lot less

 

[Phlintstone]

The difference is being a member of SWAPA (option one), or not being a member but still paying the dues under the Agency Shop regulations.

Thanks Red. I assumed that was the case but wanted to be sure.

Phred

 

[Phlintstone]

PCL why do you care, you're not moving over are you? Wal-Mart need greeters or Home Depot

Because he is a wooden spoon...shaped like one and loves to stir the pot.

Phred

 

[Roomwithaview]

Phreddy

Sorry to disappoint you Princess but I am not the "suing" type. If I am that unhappy, I will just leave. Life is too short and its just a job.

Phred

My post wasn't a dig or made in jest.