Airtran Pilots Want ALPA=WHY?

[MCDU]

USairways elected members who are also airways pilots did what they did. Now after doing what they had to do to save their company and their job they are asking for a do over by screw AWA pilots. Unbelievable.

Wow. Where did you go to school? You must be a green card holder. No way someone can write this kind of garbage. It is like some third grader trying to spell. Unbelievable. Any idiot these days can become a pilot. Pilots like Sullenberger are a thing of the past. Instead we get idiots like Max Powers who types like a retard and paid for his job.

M

 

[Ty Webb]

Its Valujet. You must be new. Good luck at ALPA. Like I said, Alpa is a perfect fit.

Good luck Eagle757shark. That is one cool screen name. Are those your favorite animals.

M

Hey McDUche-bag,

How's your wife and my kids . . . . you nutless turd-polisher.:laugh:

 

[scarlet]

So where does the 3 million NPA has in the bank right now go? No answer

Why I should vote for ALPA? No answer

The "we need Change BS AGAIN" why are we running
to an union, when most are trying to run away.

over 6 years to settle a contract at ASA? Look at United? Look at CAL? ACA=great airline=ALPA really showed the company!! Ask any Midwest guy how they feel about their ALPA leadership? Alpa gave Mesa alot of support through the years for what kind of contract? To look in the future I have to look at the past of ALPA= NOT IMPRESSED !!!

HERE again the employees run the airline, not ANY UNION or Management !!

 

[Britpilot]

So where does the 3 million NPA has in the bank right now go? No answer

Why I should vote for ALPA? No answer

The "we need Change BS AGAIN" why are we running
to an union, when most are trying to run away.

over 6 years to settle a contract at ASA? Look at United? Look at CAL? ACA=great airline=ALPA really showed the company!! Ask any Midwest guy how they feel about their ALPA leadership? Alpa gave Mesa alot of support through the years for what kind of contract? To look in the future I have to look at the past of ALPA= NOT IMPRESSED !!!

HERE again the employees run the airline, not ANY UNION or Management !!

Go to a roadshow and get your questions answered. It's not hard to do and you will at least have a better understanding of the matter.
Coming on here and ranting will not help you.
Go to a roadshow, then make up your mind.

It's no contest for me, I'm voting ALPA, had enough of our present "union"

 

[Britpilot]

Instead we get idiots like MCDU who types like a retard and paid for his job.

M

Go away little boy.

 

[Dan Roman]

If it means anything, all the intelligent posters on here seem pro Alpa and the morons are bashing it.
ALPA brings a lot of resources to the table that NPA doesn't have. Like any airline, it's what the people do with it. Simple fact is, I would guess the same people will be active in the Union whether it's NPA or ALPA. Just that with ALPA, as I said, they will have a much bigger tool bag.

 

[400ADude]

What will ALPA's response be to the several hundred Scabs you guys have???

 

[Mongolikecandy]

What will ALPA's response be to the several hundred Scabs you guys have???

We don't have several hundred scabs sh!thead. Get your facts straight. The few we do have will likely be treated like the ones at CAL, also an ALPA carrier. Go stir someone else's pot.

 

[Nindiri]

Management doesn't want ALPA on the property. That alone is enough reason for me to vote ALPA.

 

[ATLplt]

What will ALPA's response be to the several hundred Scabs you guys have???

Several hundred scabs on a list of 1700? Put the crack pipe down dude. The EAL strike was 20 years ago. Most of those guys are long gone.

 

[SkiFishFly]

From my perspective:

ALPA offers us
- real lawyers who have experience with contract negotiations, holding the company accountable for violating status quo, making sure grievance process altually takes place...
- lawyers who know how to deal with the FAA when a pilots livelihood (certificate) is challenged
- Loss of medical insurance.
- loss of license insurance

NPA offers us
- a lawyer who couldn't fight her way out of a wet paper bag.
- A grievance process that is completely broke and allows the Company to stonewall and deny everything
- No loss of license insurance
- no loss of med insurance
- Those of us familiar with how the FAA can behave have to hire a 3rd party (usually AOPA legal) just to make sure we will have legal rep if our cert is ever challanged.
- some real entertaining infighting and petty bickering...

 

[400ADude]

Most of those guys are long gone

.

No, they are not. They are your management and continue to haunt you today.

 

[Britpilot]

No, they are not. They are your management and continue to haunt you today.

Why do you care. No life?

 

[scarlet]

ALPA offers us
- real lawyers who have experience with contract negotiations, holding the company accountable for violating status quo, making sure grievance process altually takes place...
- lawyers who know how to deal with the FAA when a pilots livelihood (certificate) is challenged
- Loss of medical insurance.
- loss of license insurance

NPA offers us
- a lawyer who couldn't fight her way out of a wet paper bag.
- A grievance process that is completely broke and allows the Company to stonewall and deny everything
- No loss of license insurance
- no loss of med insurance
- Those of us familiar with how the FAA can behave have to hire a 3rd party (usually AOPA legal) just to make sure we will have legal rep if our cert is ever challanged.
- some real entertaining infighting and petty bickering...


sounds like you need Insurance...=harverywatt.com

Actual lawyers that hold the company accountable=Just as ALPA attorneys have for United, CAL, TWA, Midwest= OK I would say that ALPA really gave it to Midwest!

I will attend and ask them about the 3 million we have in the bank, and what did they do for Midwest guys,(oh that is right the MEC supported MGT.??) or for the UAL,CAL guys right now=NOTHING but I will listen.

What committee do you sit on and volunteer your time with the current union?

ALPA is just going to be all fix all?

 

[scarlet]

go ask all the ASA guys how long it took ASA and ALPA to work through the grievance process=yes 18 months. There are enough ASA guys here to tell you!

Or about 6 years of nothing, and alot of guys left and then lost the 15K bonus. (some left just a day behind getting the 15k, then furloughed at their next carrier. Thanks ALPA