Airtran has reached a tentative agreement!!

[Lear70]

Lear,

I was responding to YOUR statements about the SLI. So put that moderator hat back on and moderate yourself.

No you weren't, you were responding to Ty. That was HIS quote that you were quoting. Try again.

Grow up and stop using your moderator position as a bully pulpit, your agenda is transparent.

Again, I really don't care if you don't like the way I moderate. You can email the webmaster if you think it's inappropriate; I'm comfortable that my moderation has been very even-handed, seeing as I just banned ONE OF OUR OWN yesterday for 30 DAYS!

Or should I say; using your moderator authority to be a bully.

No, that would mean me DELETING posts that I don't like, and I obviously have NOT been doing that. I'm simply asking you to put your posts in the thread to which they pertain to. What part of that is so difficult for you to comprehend?

 

[doh]

Back to the TA. You have got to get your hostages back. If you let them start down that slippery slope, you will never get it back!

 

[ivauir]

No you weren't, you were responding to Ty. That was HIS quote that you were quoting. Try again.

You are correct about that, my bad.

Still, You mix and match your moderating and your opinion on issues.

No, that would mean me DELETING posts that I don't like, and I obviously have NOT been doing that. I'm simply asking you to put your posts in the thread to which they pertain to. What part of that is so difficult for you to comprehend?

The part where you only bring this up if it is an SLI opinion you disagree with.

 

[ivauir]

The Airtran Pilots should keep their present seats and relative seniority.
That doesn't affect your pay or seniority at all.

Sounds fair.

That seat exists in Atlanta working for lousy pay and work rules ... who knows, could happen. Ask the F9 guys how that is working for them ...

I'd rather get a deal that is good for everybody and move on. Clearly some people won't be happy unless they get everything. In my experience those kind of people often end up with nothing.

Lear,

I am more that willing to honor your request to keep SLI off of this thread - heck, I don't want to talk about it at all. But I won't be the only voice silenced.

 

[kwick]

Sounds fair.

That seat exists in Atlanta working for lousy pay and work rules ... who knows, could happen. Ask the F9 guys how that is working for them ...

I'd rather get a deal that is good for everybody and move on. Clearly some people won't be happy unless they get everything. In my experience those kind of people often end up with nothing.

Lear,

I am more that willing to honor your request to keep SLI off of this thread - heck, I don't want to talk about it at all. But I won't be the only voice silenced.

You paid for your 737 type rating.

Now, You want the company to buy you an Airtran pilots Captains seat.

Why not just pay your dues like everybody else?

 

[Kharma Police]

You paid for your 737 type rating.

Now, You want the company to buy you an Airtran pilots Captains seat.

Why not just pay your dues like everybody else?

Easy Tiger, let's not go there...........

 

[ivauir]

Easy Tiger, let's not go there...........

Thanks for adding some reason. Any details on your TA yet?

 

[Kharma Police]

Thanks for adding some reason. Any details on your TA yet?

All's quiet on the Southeastern front. No concrete details, just info from, "reliable sources". Get ready for FI to be slow with all the postings tomorrow once the actual details come out.

 

[Cruncher]

details coming out tomorrow?

 

[Bwipilot]

You paid for your 737 type rating.

Now, You want the company to buy you an Airtran pilots Captains seat.

Why not just pay your dues like everybody else?

SWA pilots did pay their dues. Would you like to keep your TA payrates?

 

[ivauir]

SWA pilots did pay their dues. Would you like to keep your TA payrates?

He is just laying flamebait, don't give him the satisfaction. Probably not an AirTran guy anyway, just someone trying to make trouble between us.

 

[carl p]

I don't think he is AT...

 

[Lear70]

You are correct about that, my bad.

Still, You mix and match your moderating and your opinion on issues.

Yeah, I know. I've been trying to back off the posting of my personal opinions on the SLI issues because, in part, of my Moderator status.

The part where you only bring this up if it is an SLI opinion you disagree with.

I'm not on here all day. There might be several opinions both directions posted before I get online to say something (I do fly a full schedule). Sorry if it appeared that I was only responding when something was posted I didn't agree with, just happened to be the timing.

 

[Midge]

Lear,

I was responding to YOUR statements about the SLI. So put that moderator hat back on and moderate yourself.

Grow up and stop using your moderator position as a bully pulpit, your agenda is transparent.



Or should I say; using your moderator authority to be a bully.

That's what I've been saying.
I think it's time this person either step down as moderator, or remove him/herself from threads regarding Air Tran altogether.
Maybe time for both, as obviously the job at hand is over their head, and can't separate the 2.

 

[Bwipilot]

This is almost hilarious. The thread has creeped to the discussion of performance of the moderator :))

 

[canyonblue]

You paid for your 737 type rating.

Now, You want the company to buy you an Airtran pilots Captains seat.

Why not just pay your dues like everybody else?

Actually if you haven't already heard, those are soon to become Southwest Airlines seats. Any current AirTran pilot will be hoping to be sitting in a Southwest Airlines Captain seat. They buy 'em we fly 'em, be it from Boeing or a garage sale.

 

[Lear70]

Is it just me, or can anyone else get on the private forum tonight? Can't get it on cable internet or on my phone...

Been watching the ALPA site, still no downloadable contract.

 

[Grybrd]

Can't log in either.

 

[ATLplt]

Can't log in, but just received the email about the 2-2 vote with the chairman tie-breaking. It seems we're gonna vote on it after all. This thing went down exactly as I figured. Sad.

 

[Lear70]

The vote was unanimous to send it to the pilot group but will not go out with a unanimous "recommend" from the MEC, but rather split 2/2. Don't know if I'm allowed to discuss the specifics of who voted which way yet...

Getting on in spurts here and there. Traffic on the server is likely through the roof. Our servers that the message board is on are different than the main ALPA server the non-message board website is on.

I missed my Anchor Pool time, I think it's between 3 guys right now, we'll see if it even gets released tonight or if it will be sometime tomorrow...

 

[Lear70]

Duplicate post...

 

[Grybrd]

Thanks for the update.

 

[jonjuan]

downloadable contract

Maybe it's the Marker's Mark talking, but LOL............sounds like a double entendre.

 

[Newjetjockey]

2-2. This is gonna get ugly.

 

[Nindiri]

I was afraid TO and JP had accidentally touched, causing a catastophic matter/antimatter explosion that took out the forum.

 

[ATLplt]

The vote was unanimous to send it to the pilot group but will not go out with a unanimous "recommend" from the MEC, but rather split 2/2. Don't know if I'm allowed to discuss the specifics of who voted which way yet...

That's an easy one. If people can't figure out who voted Yes or No then they haven't been following things very closely.

I'm starting to think that this thing actually has a chance to get shot down.

 

[Nindiri]

I thought they were supposed to have this thing ready to go out today once the votes were done. How long does it take to post it?

 

[Max Powers]

2-2. This is gonna get ugly.

Thats the way it always is. The two no votes don't have the courage to stand up and support something that they created because they are too interested in helping themselves politically.

 

[Stewie]

Thats the way it always is. The two no votes don't have the courage to stand up and support something that they created because they are too interested in helping themselves politically.

That makes no sense. Do you even know what you are talking about?

 

[Lear70]

I'm starting to think that this thing actually has a chance to get shot down.

I've been wrong before, but I'm betting this passes 75/25. Just my .02 cents.

25-30% raises for the F/O's, rates within 5 years that match current SWA rates in both seats as a "just in case" the SWA deal falls through, $8,750 signing bonus for the F/O's, $11k for the CA's, we get our quality of life in trip trades/drops/swaps back, reserves get some great work rule improvements, 12% B-fund, we kept our ability to turn down downline drafts and such for personal hardships, etc.

We got Vince back, did NOT get Don back. I don't think I'm at liberty to say why yet, but it wasn't for trying. I'll let legal or one of the reps explain it, and there will be those of us who vote No simply on that principle alone, but overall, the company put the money in the right places to get the vote, plus the Southwest thing swinging quite a few votes to get SOME kind of $$$ before it's all rendered moot anyway.

Yeah, I'd say 75/25. We shall see come Nov 30th. Voting opens Nov 20th, runs 10 days, road shows to start next week.