I don't think Lorenzo did anything extrodinanry other than exploit an obvious weakness in organized labor under the RLA threshold.
You are showing your ignorance on history.
Like NPA, the in house sucked slightly more than ALPA (happy), plus all the meet and greets pushed the mindless over the fence.
So 59,000 ALPA members including the pilots of UAL and DAL that you serve are mindless...
To me ALPA comes across as this lugging dinosaur in orthodics shuffling up the hall of the senior center with it's Commodore 64 in hand screaming "it's here to save 1978". It's simply grown into this lathergic economic beast that's too afraid to be a real union, it's become more of a corporation that like General Motors that has minions like yourself defending the CEO (prator) recieving disgusting compensation packages and past presidents getting golden parachutes ie; lifetime pensions (Worthless).
There might be some truth to that.... but if you are going jab at compensation, then I'll jab at your "why buy the cow, get the milk for free". From my perspective that is just embarrassing to be an Air Line Pilot, knowing that you are freeloading....
You say ALPA is out of touch, but yet you still benefit from it....
I believe that ALPA's presence has become an overall drag on the economics of the airline industy that financial experts have been availed to cut it off at the knees, and are much brighter than anybody that ALPA can research with a community college sub-committe. Again it's a corporation, what does ALPA have to lose, it's just a (fill in the name) pilot group, against the overall big picture pilot group.
Everyone has an opinion, and your amateur hour, immature comments indicate you really don't know what you speak of...... do you have references...??
And yes, in my 24 years of line flying I have been burned by ALPA. OO is the one of many airlines I've worked at.
Elaborate, because many guys that have been burned are really guys that just expected ALPA to serve them. They had no clue how the organization, the industry and gov't works. I am guessing that you just went golfing or skiing (for example) and didn't put an ounce of effort into being an ALPA member to protect your career... then when you got slammed by management, you blame ALPA... Just like your Lorenzo comment.
Lorenzo is the Hitler of the Air Line Industry... your comments about Lorenzo are like telling a jew that Hitler wasn't so bad...
It is too bad you can't be objective. I know ALPA has problems and many of us are trying to solve them...
It is easy for a guy like you, to chide and armchair ALPA, knowing you have no responsibilities to your pilots. However, the fact that you benefit so much from ALPA and contribute nothing and still insult and disrespect makes it difficult to respect you. In addition, those of us that are trying to improve the profession have to work harder when we interact with your fellow pilots....