Air Wisconsin

[masedogg19]

Just had an interview with AWAC and wondering how long for a call if you get the job?

could be as much as 2 weeks

 

[av8er23]

Is there a software program that you can set your preferences in tht will help with bidding?

Also from what i have read on this thread is at the end of a trip you commuters NEVER get off in time to catch a flight out to get back home.

 

[Victor Meldrew]

Is there a software program that you can set your preferences in tht will help with bidding?

Also from what i have read on this thread is at the end of a trip you commuters NEVER get off in time to catch a flight out to get back home.

Yes there is a company site that will show you hotels reqd, days at home etc. These days though when you use it you just get even more depressed when you see the hotels required and lack of home days.

Probably about 80% of trips end with you being unable to get a flight in or out before / after a trip. The other 20% - you have to be in the top 5% of the seniority list to get those!!

 

[BoilerUP]

Do you current AWAC pilots think these schedules are because of the transition to U flying, or because the company is trying to hose the pilot group? Do you honestly think the schedules will continue to be horrible for the next 4-8-12-longer months?

 

[rightrudder]

Do you current AWAC pilots think these schedules are because of the transition to U flying, or because the company is trying to hose the pilot group? Do you honestly think the schedules will continue to be horrible for the next 4-8-12-longer months?

The pairing construction, which dictates whether or not the lines are commutable, does not have to be as bad as it is. You show early the first day, fly very little on day 2 and 3, and on day four, you fly a bunch until 10 pm, so you have no chance to get home except for jumping on ups.

They could easily load up the flying on days 2 and 3 and at least let you get home on the last day. They choose not to do that.

Why? That's a good question. It may be that they want to force people to quit (the more senior guys who make more $$, less likely to be quiet about the crap here), so maybe if the arbitrator rules in our favor, maybe back pay only for existing employees. It may be to make our QOL so bad that if they lose the concession grievance, they can have a bit of bargaining leverage to try out when our old contract snaps back and they have to try and renegotiate it.

In any event, the schedules could be more efficient and pilot friendly and they are not. That tells me that it is intentional.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

You guys are all free to b!tch all you want on these boards and such. I just get tired of hearing about it in the cockpit when I'm locked in with you @ssmunches. I've decided I've had enough listening and nodding my head when you guys start up. Now I tell you what I think and I play devils advocate to your extremist points of view (ie. the company is out to fukk me personally). The funny thing is that when I talk to you face to face, and tell you that I don't agree with work actions and all that other union b.s. to show how disgruntled you are, you back down and rethink what you are saying. You say things like, "well I didn't mean that I would personally delay a flight, but you know what I'm talking about...hahaha." You're really tough on these internet chat rooms, but once someone tells you to your face that they aren't interested in your misery, you get really quiet. Misery loves company, and you're all welcome to give it to each other. Just don't come complaining to me because my attitude is, deal with your sh!t and if it's too much to deal with, move on to the next thing. This is a job people. You are employees. If you want to make the perfect airline for your employees, sack up the money, start an airline, and rock on with your bad selves. Until then, you need to get your extremist, company owes me this and company owes me that attitudes in check. The company only owes you whats in the contract, and for the most part, the things you are b!tching about are not covered in the contract. If you want to do something about it, get the contract changed. Whining just makes you look and sound like little children! Go to bed. I'm done.

 

[rightrudder]

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[eight8kcabpilot]

is the head of HR Sara Peterson? if so, is the spelling correct

 

[wheelsup]

is the head of HR Sara Peterson? if so, is the spelling correct

Yes, that is correct. Her offical title according to my sheet of contact info is "Recruiting Specialist", if you care. She conducts the pilot recruiting, however the head of HR is someone different.

~wheelsup

 

[spg2bmd]

anyone know what they are looking for on the interview??

 

[Paladin]

The head of HR is Lisa Conover. Although I don't believe she is directly involved with the day to day pilot recruiting activities.

 

[WickedPissa]

The pairing construction, which dictates whether or not the lines are commutable, does not have to be as bad as it is. You show early the first day, fly very little on day 2 and 3, and on day four, you fly a bunch until 10 pm, so you have no chance to get home except for jumping on ups.

They could easily load up the flying on days 2 and 3 and at least let you get home on the last day. They choose not to do that.

Why? That's a good question. It may be that they want to force people to quit (the more senior guys who make more $$, less likely to be quiet about the crap here), so maybe if the arbitrator rules in our favor, maybe back pay only for existing employees. It may be to make our QOL so bad that if they lose the concession grievance, they can have a bit of bargaining leverage to try out when our old contract snaps back and they have to try and renegotiate it.

In any event, the schedules could be more efficient and pilot friendly and they are not. That tells me that it is intentional.

I worked for both AWAC and USAirways Express. I don't think it is a management conspiracy to make people quit. USAirways Express makes the most inefficient schedules. I did a triple deadhead one (actually many times) day to fly one leg. I had 4 day trips that stated at 5 a.m. or earlier on day one and ended after 11:00 p.m. on day 4. They had day 2 and 3 of the 4-day with only one or 2 legs. We thought they did this so they could extend us on day 2 and 3 to cover the flying they had. I was extended on a regular basis EVERY trip. Also junior manned. Why they didn't give us a packed, efficient 4 day trip, I don't know. It comes down to poor scheduling and dumba$$ management. I don't think they are counting on senior guys quitting. They just suck at scheduling at USAir.

My point is, unfortunately you are a USAirways Express carrier now. I left there to go to AWAC because of crap scedules and QOL at USAir. Now, the AWAC that I worked for and enjoyed for a short time seems to be gone.

 

[crashpad]

The head of HR is Lisa Conover. Although I don't believe she is directly involved with the day to day pilot recruiting activities.

Don't trust her!!! I went to her in confidence after being harrassed by a station agent for over a year. She promised it would remain confidential.
The next thing I know, that's right....the chief pilot gets a phone call from her, as well as the gate agent, detailing my "allegations".

 

[Beechnut]

Wow Crashpad I had no idea. Are you that easy?

Have any pictures?

S.

 

[crashpad]

I just re-read my reply. You're right Beechnut, it does conjer images of Scott, Lisa and myself engaged in hedonistic acts with marshmellow peeps.