Air Wisconsin

[wheelsup]

that's what they are telling us right now.....good time to get on with the company

and to answer eight8kcabpilot's question....you are correct....the written is required by the end of your probationary period....not necessarily at date of hire

The written is required to be done within your 12-month probationary period. This starts they day you begin indoc and start collecting a paycheck. After doing the indoc, sim, and OE, I had 3 months and change of that go by.

As far as 2.5 year upgrade, I talked with one of the most senior F/O's awaded captain in the Feb alignment and he was hired just a shade over 3 years ago. I'm not sure if it's down to 2.5 right now or not. Also, to think that it will be 2.5 years from now is rediculous. If you look at the numbers they want to hire over the course of the next year it only adds up to about 250 or so I think, which will put anyone hired today in the middle of the F/O's.

Where it goes from there is really up to expansion (not likely due to our cost structure) or the schedules getting any worse, which would be tough. I have a 4:45 AM show...ouch.

~wheelsup

 

[geojet707]

For the record we are already down to 5 operational BAC-146's with 1 spare according to the November newsletter. Pilots flying the BAC have already been awarded positions in the CRJ with delayed training. Puts things into a better perspective for those thinking 17 airplanes are going to disappear all of a sudden in April. I doubt if you'll even feel it as a newhire....maybe an extra month or three on reserve.

How long is reserve at AWAC?? Min days off?? Also, is PHL or DCA a possible base for a new hire?? Thanks

 

[masedogg19]

How long is reserve at AWAC?? Min days off?? Also, is PHL or DCA a possible base for a new hire?? Thanks

reserve shouldn't be too long.....i'm heading to CPT and Sim training later today.....i was told yesterday that i would likely spend no longer than 2 months on reserve (fingers crossed on that one).....PHL and DCA are both possible bases for new hires....it looks like they are being send to all 3 bases right now

and wheelsup....you're right...that's what i meant too....i was just saying that the written wasn't required when you were hired...but thats when your 12 months starts....it looks like i'll be close to 4 months before i am actually out on the line

 

[masedogg19]

How long is reserve at AWAC?? Min days off?? Also, is PHL or DCA a possible base for a new hire?? Thanks

sorry...forgot to answer the other question....minimum days off on reserve is 12 days....from what i saw most of the lines are closer to 14-15 days off (again, i'm new here so i have yet to see things in action)

 

[BoilerUP]

Haven't seen it previously asked...but does AWAC have a commuter clause?

If somebody at AWAC would be willing to send me a copy of the current CBA, I would highly appreciate it. I am interviewing later this month and would like to have a good idea what to expect. Please PM me if willing to help me out. Thanks!

 

[J32driver]

Haven't seen it previously asked...but does AWAC have a commuter clause?

If somebody at AWAC would be willing to send me a copy of the current CBA, I would highly appreciate it. I am interviewing later this month and would like to have a good idea what to expect. Please PM me if willing to help me out. Thanks!

Yep. Commuter clause requires 2 flights to get you to work. I don't think our CBA lives in an online form of any sorts. Doubt you'll get it.

 

[BoilerUP]

Thanks, J32!

 

[ground stop]

i started at air willy in feb being 3rd from the bottom, #873. i have since moved up 170 spots with another 31 people leaving end of nov/dec. thats almost 25% of the company that has left since feb. oh, and if the issue that we have with the company gets settled early next year, 2nd year fo pay may go from $33/hr to $37 with a possibilty of back pay thrown in. all up to the abitrator though.

 

[1973Arrow]

...someone asked how long probation was/is...it's the first year...

 

[av8er23]

I am looking to commute from Birmingham, Al once i get a line. How difficult will this be?

 

[avrodriver]

As far as 2.5 year upgrade, I talked with one of the most senior F/O's awaded captain in the Feb alignment and he was hired just a shade over 3 years ago. I'm not sure if it's down to 2.5 right now or not.
~wheelsup

The last guys to be awarded the upgrade were hired in Feb of 03'. There is a six month gap between that class and the following one in Aug of 03' where there was no new hires. That's where everyone's getting this 2.5 year upgrade talk from. On the next award that's where it'll drop to.

Like mentioned above though. That shouldn't play any part in your decision to come here. Right now the facts are: our current contract, bases on the east coast, and fairly rapid movement up the F/O list. If you live on the east coast, I'd say this would defintely be on my list of top 3 carriers to head to

 

[logolight]

Word is 30 new hires per month and 20 upgrades per month until at least next summer. Averaging one resignation every 20 hours. My calculation is new hires sit reserve for 3 months. Upgrade time is about 2 years. Also, AWAC is starting a new hire mentorship program in which a line pilot mentors a new hire throughout their training to help them get through the course easier. I will be mentoring someone in the Dec. 5th class. I'm telling you, get your resume in.

 

[av8er23]

I am going to be part of the Jan. 8th class.

 

[talespin]

Noticed that no one has bashed AWAC in this thread. Where are the haters?

They've left!

 

[Kaudbron]

anyone know if AWAC takes or has interns? Thanks