Air Force Academy Welfare Pilots

[CrewDawg]

TO BALLY:

You really are a low piece of scum.

Perhaps you would like to explain your views to the widow.

We are sad to announce that NYC based MD-88 First Officer Kevin Sonnenberg died while piloting his F-16 in Iraq during a close air support mission on June 15th. He is survived by his wife and stepson. Funeral arrangements are pending. In lieu of flowers, please send donations payable to the Kevin Sonnenberg Memorial Fund in care of: Lorin Sonnenberg, P459 County Road 3A, McClure, OH 43534

Thanks for posting that, I was unaware of such a fund. Sonny was a great guy and he will be missed.

RIP Sonny



As far as AFA, I don't know why anyone would want to go there. Sure it's free but by going to an institution you miss out on the fun of college. I enlisted in the guard and got all my college and flying paid for and still ended up in the same place as them. Good on them for making it in and sticking with it at the academy. But no way would I have put up with all the bull sh!t for four years. College was just way to much fun for me. I enjoyed good looking girls and partying too much, which is reflected in my gpa!

Most of the guys in my UPT class are academy and almost all of them say they glad they went to the AFA but if they had it to do over again, they would have went to a regular college. They are also very jealous of the guard guys.....hahahaha j/k!

 

[Malter1]

..... He actually admitted that the only reason he attended the academy was to have the U.S. taxpayer pay for his college degree and all his flight training. Since his goal was to be an airline pilot, he bid the KC 135 so he would not be in harms way and get flight time as soon as possible.......

That's just something you say when you're bitter about getting a 135 out of UPT..............

 

[737ski]

"As far as AFA, I don't know why anyone would want to go there. Sure it's free".

The Academy is a personal choice--no one else's. If not, you'll never make it through. Not so fast on the free... The education is not free, the cost is shoved up your a$$ a nickel at a time (a manner of speaking, of course). Then, when you graduate, you get to put your life on the line for a lot of folks that you may or may not agree with your opinion. Fighter, tanker, airlift, pencil pusher--it doesn't matter.

SWA/FO--I respect your opinions, though I don't always agree. I'm sure we could hoist a few even though we come from very different backgrounds. (as long as it is $1, maybe 2-3--I'm 1st year...)

RedDog--please don't perpetuate the riff between AMer's & PMer's--you haven't been here long enough. I've done both & have yet to fly w/ a "tool". You may have come across the 2% rule. I don't know. We, too, can hoist a few if you can lower yourself to AM status--& I'll buy...

 

[SWA/FO]

SWA/FO--I respect your opinions, though I don't always agree. I'm sure we could hoist a few even though we come from very different backgrounds. (as long as it is $1, maybe 2-3--I'm 1st year...)

What a nice thing to say....thanks.

 

[Benhuntn]

Ski you are getting soft man!

 

[737ski]

Ski you are getting soft man!

She made me do it...

 

[Say Again Over]

This post deserved no response

Right on the money!

 

[RedDogC130]

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RedDog--please don't perpetuate the riff between AMer's & PMer's--you haven't been here long enough. I've done both & have yet to fly w/ a "tool". You may have come across the 2% rule. I don't know. We, too, can hoist a few if you can lower yourself to AM status--& I'll buy...

You know you 100% right. I should not...sorry.

As to SWA F/O.. I am done bashing you. You are who you are. I just think you are not man enough to voice those opinions to a real person in front of you. Talking $hit on the computer is one thing but in person ..... you would not. Want to meet...sure PM your name and employee number. I would be more than happy to put a name to a face. You don't have the ball$ for that either.

 

[Phaedrus]

I don't know who's worse with the third person, Bob Dole or swafo. Either way it's annoying as he11.
So says the Phaedrus.

 

[Oh-ryan]

I don't know who's worse with the third person, Bob Dole or swafo. Either way it's annoying as he11.
So says the Phaedrus.

George likes his chicken spicey.
George would never steal from the Yankees.
George is getting very upset.

 

[Big Slick]

Quote:
RedDog--please don't perpetuate the riff between AMer's & PMer's--you haven't been here long enough. I've done both & have yet to fly w/ a "tool". You may have come across the 2% rule.



Although a statistical anomaly, SWA F/U is the entire 2%.

 

[Big Slick]

Statistics are only accurate 57.8% of the time, however.

 

[big_al]

Again Bigal does not have the big picture. The Commies were after world domination. There was a Sino-Soviet block bent on this purpose. After WWII We elected to get out of the military business, the commies did not, and then came Korea, the US was forced to meet the commies. Thank goodness for the reserves. In 1960 the said they would bury us, they moved offensive missiles to Cuba, they overthrew gov'ts to install communist dictators. There was a cold war, it was prepared to go hot at any minute. The outcome of the Cold War has us live prosperous lives since WWII. The way we reacted through that period brought us this outcome, there is no guarantee if we had reacted in any other way the outcome would have been the same.

sorry but that is completely wrong.

The "commies" could barely keep their own country afloat, 99% of all the red scare examples of commies trying to take over the world were fabrications by the defense industry and its supporters. Its too bad, in this day and age with all the information out there, we still believe the propaganda.

They moved offensive missiles to cuba not only because america had offensive missiles in countries next door to the USSR, but because they were trying to bring an end to the berlin issue which they felt was draining a lot of their time and money.

 

[big_al]

This will be my last post in regards to your subject, BA. I am curious to know what I wrote that makes you think I don't believe the same thing you do. You are assuming quite a bit. Perhaps you should post in the Non-Aviation thread rather than the Majors thread. Or once again, in a political forum--which this is not intended to be. For responding to someone else's childish comment, you're not coming across as a convincing adult.

I'm saddened by your leaving this "debate" it really hurts me.

First I should leave this board entirely but now I should only go to another section?

convincing adult? I am an adult and my words show it... you on the other hand...

Who the hell am I? I'm the guy--along with thousands of others--that allows you the freedom to believe what you want. We facilitate the means by which you post it here, without fear of being murdered or jailed for saying it.

I asked who the hell you were to make such comments as how I should leave.

And there you people go again, with your huge egos talking about you personally putting your life on the line to protect "freedom"

Sorry but that is just egotistical nonsense. Nobody put their life on the line for freedom since WWII

 

[Phaedrus]

Nobody put their life on the line for freedom since WWII

Unreal. Basically you are saying that no one has risked their life since then because all post WWII wars that we've been in were not about freedom. The very act of volunteering to be in the military is risking your life (you'll think that egotistical, I'm sure). If you don't understand that then you're beyond hope.

They moved offensive missiles to cuba not only because america had offensive missiles in countries next door to the USSR

Oh, of course. It was our fault. Another Blame America First, guilt-ridden, can't we all just get along, drink-the-milk-from-mama-while-kicking-her-in-the-gut loser.
Peace.