ABX furloughs

[Box-Hauler]

Hey what happened to the super bid list on the co. web site. Are they updating it from all the guys that pulled their bids?

 

[LarryinTN]

It's still there, they just removed the link on the front page. Look on the crew scheduling page under the pics of the schedulers.

 

[Bitter]

OPF closed at noon today. Wonder what happened. Any word?

 

[Box-Hauler]

Checked last night there were about 157 trips for 9 F/O's. Not sure what if any got bid up. Will check when I transit ILN on Wed.

 

[Bitter]

Post us the stats if you have time for all seats.....Especially 9 & 76 CA. If the 9Fo is at 157, the rest should be soberingly insane.

 

[aviatrix767]

Rumor has it only 9 folks across the board bid OPF - - - and none of those were on the -9.

 

[LarryinTN]

I hope that your rumor is correct! Can you imagine the morning meeting in the flight department if it is?

 

[inplaneview]

Rumor has it only 9 folks across the board bid OPF - - - and none of those were on the -9.

I'd like to see the list of 'non-team player nine'. I'd bet they'd also be on a list of those who sold back vacation and decided against contributing to the furlough fund.

 

[Bitter]

Listened to the hotline.....all about ANA. Not even a mention of the furloughs. Nice!

 

[Sporto]

Listened to the hotline.....all about ANA. Not even a mention of the furloughs. Nice!

Give it time......June is coming.

 

[ABXbooger]

Chief Pilots are telling people to expect 10 more furloughs by the end of the year...

 

[Bitter]

Chief Pilots are telling people to expect 10 more furloughs by the end of the year...

Since when has a Chief Pilot told the pilot group the truth......that said the furlough will probably run deeper than that. My guess is 50-60 total. DHL has broken ABX. A shame, but a once proud airline is in the first part of its death throws.

Run boys while you can.

 

[Classicdriver]

Please forgive me for my ignorance, but how is DHL killing ABX? Are they transfering flying to Astar, or forcing the rates down or what?

Isn't this ANA deal a saving grace? Your expanding your ACMI footprint.

 

[penguin22]

Chief Pilots are telling people to expect 10 more furloughs by the end of the year...

If I were a chief pilot and trying break up a group that's 99% unified (I heard it was 7, not 9), that's what I'd say too.

Please forgive me for my ignorance, but how is DHL killing ABX? Are they transfering flying to Astar, or forcing the rates down or what?

DHL has parked a bunch of ABX DC9s. Astar, because their ACMI is different than ours, has not parked anything that's not broke yet.

Isn't this ANA deal a saving grace? Your expanding your ACMI footprint.

Yes, ANA could be HUGE. But it's still a tad early to be sure. Stay tuned!

 

[BoxesRus]

Please forgive me for my ignorance, but how is DHL killing ABX? Are they transfering flying to Astar, or forcing the rates down or what?

Isn't this ANA deal a saving grace? Your expanding your ACMI footprint.

To answer the question, DHL is methodically transferring flying to Astar and thereby relieving ABX of route structure. Too many cities to list here but the latest to go will be PIT, GRR, TLH. Someone else could impress you with the actual number but I'm guessing we've lost close to 30 cities. As a result, ABX is having to take aircraft out of service and furlough crewmembers. DHL is within it's right as per the ACMI contract to reduce the number of aircraft it contracts from ABX, but it doesn't make sense when you consider ABX's performance.
The ANA flying is definitely a step into the International market but that is a separate ACMI contract that will live or die on it's own.
I don't know if anyone else has looked at it from this perspective, but the way DHL is shuffling work over to Astar has the net effect of settling their scope grievance via the back door. Interesting.....