AAI Pilots Expectations for January 2015

[Ty Webb]

The reason the MEC rejected SIA#1 was because it didn't meet the minimum requirements, period. Just because SIA #2 was passed at gunpoint doesn't make it right. However, it is what it is.

FWIW, the SWA F/O's below #800 got burned by their leadership as well . . .

The only pilots unscathed by this were senior SWA Captains and very junior AAI F/O's.

 

[Quiet Flight]

The reason the MEC rejected SIA#1 was because it didn't meet the minimum requirements

What were the "minimum requirements"? Remain on AT pay scale for an extra 2 1/2 years and relinquish all captain seats?

 

[Ty Webb]

What were the "minimum requirements"? Remain on AT pay scale for an extra 2 1/2 years and relinquish all captain seats?

Think what you want, buddy . . . For a 12th year guy like me, AT pay is higher . . . and with fully-commutable schedules.

 

[Quiet Flight]

You failed to answer the question I posed. Again, what were the "minimum requirements"?

 

[Crash Pad]

They still don't get it. Here at AAI we use a different metric. While the entire world goes to work for money we go for workouts, days in Mexico, good commutes, and the feel good status of quality rankings.

So enjoy your shorter trips, excessive compensation, and complex base structure. We will basque in the glory our MEC provided. I think I speak for all junior FOs when I say we were really unscathed... And by unscathed I of course mean 7 years of reserve, fixed income, reduced pay until 2015, a 20 year upgrade... Yep ALPA really looked out for us!

Hey look a SWA 737 with a 2nd year FO. That fool is making double our bottom 400... I wonder how many workouts he can get in on his trip!

Yeah I bet he doesn't even fly to PUJ! Look, no SE taxi! What a money drain.

I'll happily work for half pay so they can taxi on double the engines!

Me too! Because every overnight is a sunny beach spot!

 

[Ty Webb]

You failed to answer the question I posed. Again, what were the "minimum requirements"?

Does it really matter? How would it affect you/change your life?

 

[Ty Webb]

They still don't get it. Here at AAI we use a different metric. While the entire world goes to work for money we go for workouts, days in Mexico, good commutes, and the feel good status of quality rankings.

So enjoy your shorter trips, excessive compensation, and complex base structure. We will basque in the glory our MEC provided. I think I speak for all junior FOs when I say we were really unscathed... And by unscathed I of course mean 7 years of reserve, fixed income, reduced pay until 2015, a 20 year upgrade... Yep ALPA really looked out for us!

Clearly, what seat you are in, and where you live make a huge difference. For junior FO's, especially those that live near a SWA base, transitioning represents a good deal. For Line-holding Captains, not so much, especially ATL folks. If you look at the most recent transition award, it went so junior, that they practically had to junior-assign ATL717 Captains to transition to SWA FO.

As for assigning the blame; blame the MEC if you wish, but they were following the process. It's not their fault that the rules got changed in the middle of the game and the pilots broke ranks. If you really want to assign blame, there's more than enough to go around . . . . on all sides. If I started throwing poo at everyone who should be blamed, by the time I got done, it would look like the food fight in Animal House. Everyone would have some on them, including myself.

Regards,
Ty

 

[General Lee]

They still don't get it. Here at AAI we use a different metric. While the entire world goes to work for money we go for workouts, days in Mexico, good commutes, and the feel good status of quality rankings.

So enjoy your shorter trips, excessive compensation, and complex base structure. We will basque in the glory our MEC provided. I think I speak for all junior FOs when I say we were really unscathed... And by unscathed I of course mean 7 years of reserve, fixed income, reduced pay until 2015, a 20 year upgrade... Yep ALPA really looked out for us!

Hey look a SWA 737 with a 2nd year FO. That fool is making double our bottom 400... I wonder how many workouts he can get in on his trip!

Yeah I bet he doesn't even fly to PUJ! Look, no SE taxi! What a money drain.

I'll happily work for half pay so they can taxi on double the engines!

Me too! Because every overnight is a sunny beach spot!

PUJ or LBB, who cares? You still will be a CORNDOG making BANK, having fun flying across Texas or across the Country in one of those 737-300s. Remember, YOU WILL BE MAKING BANK....... (TIC)

Good luck to you guys.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

You failed to answer the question I posed. Again, what were the "minimum requirements"?

I'll answer for him. A deal good enough that it didn't justify the risk of arbitration for them. Since pilot arbitrated seniority list results all fall within a very narrow range, arbitration was very low risk for them. I would think given the cards they thought they had that their would be no reason for them to accept anything less than DOH and a big fence around their bases and Capt seats.
What they didn't count on was GKs next move.

 

[scoreboardII]

Batna

 

[Ty Webb]

I'll answer for him. A deal good enough that it didn't justify the risk of arbitration for them. Since all of arbitrated lists all fall within a very narrow range arbitration was very low risk for them. I would think given the cards they thought they had that their would be no reason for them to accept anything less than DOH and a big fence around their bases and Capt seats.
What they didn't count on was GKs next move.

I don't disagree.

 

[Quiet Flight]

I'll answer for him. A deal good enough that it didn't justify the risk of arbitration for them. Since all of arbitrated lists all fall within a very narrow range arbitration was very low risk for them. I would think given the cards they thought they had that their would be no reason for them to accept anything less than DOH and a big fence around their bases and Capt seats.
What they didn't count on was GKs next move.

Thanks Ghetto.

 

[FlyinGuy]

If I started throwing poo at everyone

Please don't do that. Thanks.


If you did, what type of hand sanitizer do you use?

 

[Ty Webb]

If I started throwing poo at everyone

If you did, what type of hand sanitizer do you use?

Something with a nice, Citrus scent.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Excellent!!!