Angus Khan
a Festivus miracle
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So, an ex TWAer of recall #approximately 1900 can be expected to be recalled in 2 to 3 years after already having spent five years on furlough. Then there's age 65 implement, terrorism, economic questions, returning to an industry stil in turmoil. I'm not holding my breath. So after all this time and turmoil of furlough and hardship on our families will the friendly folks at AA and APA actually consider us to have paid our dues to be at the mighty AA? Yeah, I guess I'm still just a bit angry. Age 40 and still paying my dues before I get that dream job with a major.
It's nice to like where you work, something very few at AA will ever experience.What were you thinking?
You wanna get mad at someone for your situation....look no further than the closest mirror. You took a job at TWA sometime in 1999 and sat out one of the biggest hiring booms we have seen and joined an airline that had already declared CH 11 twice.What were you thinking?
Angus-- I hear you! Well said yourself. I think part of the reason pilots get so unhappy and bitchy is b/c up until we got hired by an airline, we were in complete control of our destiny- If I failed, it was on me, if I succeeded it was my satisfaction.- Now we are along for the ride and no matter how good I am- I am completely married to my company-- while our bosses are not so attached at all. There is nothing that will drain you quite so well as a feeling that you are not in control of your life.
We need seniority-- but we need a national list that allows us to move company to company without such a huge penalty. I don't really care who's logo is on my tail-- i care that i live where i want to and i have real security: ie: is there a market for what i do? yes- than why are we taking so many hits?. How many pilot's lives are going to be turned upside down b/c protecting our seniority at an individual company takes away all our leverage. We get a national list-- and it doesn't fall on us to save the company-- let em go under like all our passengers want- and we'll fly for whoever fills the void... People are still going to fly. With all the intelligence we have in aviation- i'm smart- but there are brilliant pilots-- we can't figure out a better system than this? Don't want 22 year olds on it? Fine- have a regional list and a major list... I never minded paying my dues like the military guys. You think you have security now-- how can any airline pilot say that? (PanAm, TWA, Eastern, Braniff., pensions... ad nauseum) Think about what seniority on a national list would mean to your job security?
I'm sure i'm not thinking of everything-- but i know what isn't working.
You wanna get mad at someone for your situation....look no further than the closest mirror. You took a job at TWA sometime in 1999 and sat out one of the biggest hiring booms we have seen and joined an airline that had already declared CH 11 twice.What were you thinking?
Angus-- I hear you! Well said yourself. I think part of the reason pilots get so unhappy and bitchy is b/c up until we got hired by an airline, we were in complete control of our destiny- If I failed, it was on me, if I succeeded it was my satisfaction.- Now we are along for the ride and no matter how good I am- I am completely married to my company-- while our bosses are not so attached at all. There is nothing that will drain you quite so well as a feeling that you are not in control of your life.
We need seniority-- but we need a national list that allows us to move company to company without such a huge penalty. I don't really care who's logo is on my tail-- i care that i live where i want to and i have real security: ie: is there a market for what i do? yes- than why are we taking so many hits?. How many pilot's lives are going to be turned upside down b/c protecting our seniority at an individual company takes away all our leverage. We get a national list-- and it doesn't fall on us to save the company-- let em go under like all our passengers want- and we'll fly for whoever fills the void... People are still going to fly. With all the intelligence we have in aviation- i'm smart- but there are brilliant pilots-- we can't figure out a better system than this? Don't want 22 year olds on it? Fine- have a regional list and a major list... I never minded paying my dues like the military guys. You think you have security now-- how can any airline pilot say that? (PanAm, TWA, Eastern, Braniff., pensions... ad nauseum) Think about what seniority on a national list would mean to your job security?
I'm sure i'm not thinking of everything-- but i know what isn't working.