20 year 747 FO makes $86/hr is latest at Kalitta

[WickedPissa]

Somebody asked about the latest at Kalitta. Am I wrong or is there a typo on the payscale web pages.

 

[CSY Mon]

The 20 year F/O better upgrade or find another way of making a living.

Normal upgrade should be 2 years or less over there...DUH.

 

[WickedPissa]

"Duh".... What is that supposed to mean? You don't base a payscale on when people will upgrade. That pay sucks and people are excited to go work there? Captain pay blows for a 747.

 

[Junkflyer]

Sad but true. It may improve slightly with the new contract.

 

[furloughfodder]

What's your point?

A 12 year CAPTAIN at Jetblue makes only $89 hour.

This profession is not what it used to be. We are all just glorified bus drivers now.

 

[Junkflyer]

You're comparing an Embraer payscale to a 747 pay.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Pay Scale

Why not? UPS (and a few more carriers) pay scale(s) are by seat and years of service, not type. I believe the industry is not what it used to be, but I don't feel like a "Glorified Bus Driver".

 

[E170Guppykiller]

Are you saying that UPS' $190/hr for a senior captain on a 7 yr old contract with a BIG pay raise coming soon is insufficient?

 

[atlcrashpad]

Pay Scales

I just pointed out that a lot (mostly cargo ops) scales are based on "Seat and Seniority" not size of plane.

 

[E170Guppykiller]

So? What's your beef with that?

 

[CSY Mon]

Captain pay blows for a 747.

Yeah, it does not look good on paper, BUT a senior Kalitta can make 15 to 20K if he works overtime and stays on the road for the month.

As for 20 year F/Os...Well, in theory that could happen at a stagnant major...With no expansion and no hireing Pan Am had some 20 year F/Os, with Kalitta I don't see it happening due to expansion, turnover, retirements, etc.

 

[Junkflyer]

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[CSY Mon]

That's funny- Kalitta Captain making 15K~20K if he works overtime. You must be smoking crack cocaine. Who in the world would spend a month continuous on the road but a tre Kalitta whore.

Not smoking anything, just passing on a piece of info 'cause somebody was asking info on Kalitta pay.

What is yer beef with Kalitta pilots anyway?
Yer girlfriend ran away with one...?

 

[CWI]

lufthansa B727 post is total flamebait, don't bite................

 

[Redmeat]

I just read his other 2 posts, probably right.

 

[sgu]

How does the amount of posts tell if he is "baiting" or not?
I have had thoughts of Kalitta. They may have had their problems but who has not. Would you not go to BA because they flew a 747 w/ 3 engines half way across the WORLD? Back in the day USAir had their problems( runway excursions). Hell an UAL crew almost flew a 747 into a mountain. Ual almost ran there bizness in the ground..
Most everyone has a legit opinion but a few just like to flame. Pick out those people and IGNORE them.

 

[CSY Mon]

Aye, so the kraut is flame baiting?


He did not light my fire, I don't work for Kalitta and never have.

Been flying Saudi Hajes alongside those guys and have a few friends over there.

Just like the other scum-bag non-scheds, it is not a good place to work, nor a bad place to work.....It is a job with a pay-check for christ sake.,,

Ask the Pan-Am guys, ask the Eastern guys, ask the Braniff guys, the Midway guys, etc, etc.....Thousands of them guys lost everything and had to file personal bankruptcy..They could not carry a credit card for 7 years...

Connie Kalitta and similar firms would look pretty good while on the un-employment line.
Been there, done that and I respect the Kalitta dudes for working long and hard hours hauling freight across the planet...Not sure I would raise my glass and salute arseholes like Lufthansa 727...Propably spit in his face and drink instead.

 

[belchfire]

six year jetstream CA at Regions Air-$29.50/hr...

You guys are rich!!!

 

[CSY Mon]

six year jetstream CA at Regions Air-$29.50/hr...

Hmm, I was there 18 years ago..Twin Otter captain for Eastrn Metro Express, $20.00 per hour..Guarantee of 80 hours..That would be $1,600.00 per month.
Don't remember any per-diem..We had no lay-overs.
Working overtime I would occasonally make $2K per month or more...As in 100 to 120 hours per month with no autopilot or air-conditon.

Not complaining however, that was the last job before getting into big jets.
All of a sudden there was work-rules and autopilots and medical/dental and more...

 

[JT8D]

Just like the other scum-bag non-scheds, it is not a good place to work, nor a bad place to work.....It is a job with a pay-check for christ sake.,,

Ask the Pan-Am guys, ask the Eastern guys, ask the Braniff guys, the Midway guys, etc, etc.....Thousands of them guys lost everything and had to file personal bankruptcy..They could not carry a credit card for 7 years...

Connie Kalitta and similar firms would look pretty good while on the un-employment line.

No offense but this commentary makes me feel like an idiot for trying to pursue this career.