20 year 747 FO makes $86/hr is latest at Kalitta

[CSY Mon]

No offense but this commentary makes me feel like an idiot for trying to pursue this career.

He-he..Welcome to the real world.

I was an idiot too a few years ago:
I was chasing the "good" jobs and all that.

After being fired and furloughed a few times, then gettin good jobs, promoted and furlughed, hired and promoted and furloughed again and again, I finally gave up and just said to hell with it...

 

[Digital]

The last TA proposed pay scales..

As for the question of FO pay at Kalitta you are correct it is $86.00 an hour on the top end, which I believe stands at year 8.. correct me if I'm wrong. However, one of the few good changes on the last TA was the FO pay scale. I believe it went up to 20 years and was at a 2/3 scale with the captains. Again, I do not have my copy of the TA in hand, but these are my recollections. As for the question of how to pay an FO or Captain in this industry. Depending on how you want to look at it, this industry has paid pilots by in large (and yes I undestand there will be exceptions) by the size and the level of responsibility, as well as, the overall gross revenue that pilot helps to generate. The Union Reps. are currently working through the last rejected TA with the company to change the language. My understanding is the union is pushing to leave the pay scale in tact while changing those issues the pilot surveys found to be key in rejecting the contract. If my information is wrong then please correct me, but this is to the best of my knowledge. The first meeting back at the negotiations left much to be desired, however, we are standing by with the understanding that the contract we have now is better than what was just proposed a few months prior. And with that said, we wish our guy's at the negotiating table the very best!

 

[landlover]

He-he..Welcome to the real world.

I was an idiot too a few years ago:
I was chasing the "good" jobs and all that.

After being fired and furloughed a few times, then gettin good jobs, promoted and furlughed, hired and promoted and furloughed again and again, I finally gave up and just said to hell with it...

are you still flying? for whom, if so? if not, what do you do now?

 

[jafo20]

Kalitta sounds like a good place to go after flying single pilot night freight. I guess I'm a wannabe whore.

 

[E170Guppykiller]

Kalitta sounds like a good place to go after flying single pilot night freight. I guess I'm a wannabe whore.

Anyone that would work at Kalitta is definately a whore!

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

Like anyone who workes for Chicken Taco or any of their incarnations?

 

[CSY Mon]

are you still flying? for whom, if so? if not, what do you do now?

Yeah, still flying...Hauling 747s across the skies for Tradewinds Airlines.

Not a good job, not a bad job, but the paycheck is on time...Every time.

 

[Geronimo4497]

I guess I'm a whore for wanting to fly for a company that gives lower time guys a chance at the heavy iron. Now if TWA, PanAM or Eastern were still hiring, I would probably apply there, but.................................

 

[lufthansa B727]

Flame Bait.

 

[Reebo]

It's unbelievable that you kalitta and wana-bee kalitta ###### will rationalize the dangers and illegal activities that you conduct in this business and the risk your willing to undertake for the sake of a GOD-DAM paycheck!!!!! Get a life and either get a real job with employers who play by the rules or find a new career that doesn't risk your life or mine. You are pathetic. I've been at Lufthansa since 1986, where I enjoy a six figure income, airplanes that are maticulously maintained, with six weeks vacation annually, six weeks of sick leave provided annually as an entitlement, and a government pension when I reach 55. (I joined LH when it was a government owned airline, subject to government pensions.) I quess you americans who can pass a ATP written exam in two hours (FAA standards) after memorizing the anwers to questions, and who instrument ratings and pilot licenses never expire would expect to get incompentent and dangerous pilots flying for scum bag employers like Connie Kalitta.

just curious, what did Connie do to you?

 

[LR25]

It's unbelievable that you kalitta and wana-bee kalitta ###### will rationalize the dangers and illegal activities that you conduct in this business and the risk your willing to undertake for the sake of a GOD-DAM paycheck!!!!! Get a life and either get a real job with employers who play by the rules or find a new career that doesn't risk your life or mine. You are pathetic. I've been at Lufthansa since 1986, where I enjoy a six figure income, airplanes that are maticulously maintained, with six weeks vacation annually, six weeks of sick leave provided annually as an entitlement, and a government pension when I reach 55. (I joined LH when it was a government owned airline, subject to government pensions.) I quess you americans who can pass a ATP written exam in two hours (FAA standards) after memorizing the anwers to questions, and who instrument ratings and pilot licenses never expire would expect to get incompentent and dangerous pilots flying for scum bag employers like Connie Kalitta.

I bet the guys you fly with cant wait for you to draw that pension.

 

[Junkflyer]

I tried to work for Lufthansa, but couldn't get the goose step or salute right.

 

[embpic1]

I quess you americans who can pass a ATP written exam in two hours (FAA standards) after memorizing the anwers to questions, and who instrument ratings and pilot licenses never expire would expect to get incompentent and dangerous pilots flying for scum bag employers like Connie Kalitta.

20 November 1974; Lufthansa 747-100; Nairobi, Kenya: The aircraft was not properly configured for takeoff and stalled shortly after becoming airborne, crashing about 3600 feet (1100 meters) beyond the end of the runway. The crash killed 55 of the 140 passengers and 4 of the 17 crew

The aircraft crashed during takeoff. The hydraulic systems were not configured properly for the departure, which resulted in the failure of the leading-edge slats to extend even though they had been selected down by the flight crew.

Looks like you guys have lost more 747s than Connie.

 

[Koslen]

I tried to work for Lufthansa, but couldn't get the goose step or salute right.

Now thats funny!!!!

 

[jafo20]

European ATPs:

I've never met a European ATP who had to wash dishes and wait tables to build a flying career. I've met a few European ATPs who don't know why their HSIs precess when they're flying through ice clouds. I've known many European ATPs who magically get all the multi engine time and turbine time they'll ever need over a one year period in the US.

Why people attack other pilots:

Now, I don't work for Kalitta. I do, however, have enough experience to know that when you see someone running around, bitching about an operation and attacking their pilots, that the whiner usually has screwed something up. Typically the event goes somethign like this:

Person A freaks out over a minor incident. He subsequently screws up something important. Rather than evaluate his own performance, he defends his precious self image by attacking person B.

Why I want to be a Kalitta whore:

Although I have decent references and no blemishes on my record, Kalitta/Evergreen/Whatever seems like it's more my speed. I can't really see myself sitting in front of TV screens, debating with my capt/fo whether or not I have a regulation haircut. On this last point, I realize that my goals are unconventional, and I leave myself open to criticism.

 

[jafo20]

Actually, some of the sharpest guys I've met have been Canadian or from northern US states. Again, that's based on my limited experience.

 

[737 Pylt]

Anyone that would work at Kalitta is definately a whore!

With all your experience you whould know huh??
Quit with the flamebait, and get off your parents' computer junior, its past your bed time!
737

 

[737 Pylt]

It's unbelievable that you kalitta and wana-bee kalitta ###### will rationalize the dangers and illegal activities that you conduct in this business and the risk your willing to undertake for the sake of a GOD-DAM paycheck!!!!! Get a life and either get a real job with employers who play by the rules or find a new career that doesn't risk your life or mine. You are pathetic. I've been at Lufthansa since 1986, where I enjoy a six figure income, airplanes that are maticulously maintained, with six weeks vacation annually, six weeks of sick leave provided annually as an entitlement, and a government pension when I reach 55. (I joined LH when it was a government owned airline, subject to government pensions.) I quess you americans who can pass a ATP written exam in two hours (FAA standards) after memorizing the anwers to questions, and who instrument ratings and pilot licenses never expire would expect to get incompentent and dangerous pilots flying for scum bag employers like Connie Kalitta.

All that experience, knowledge, and time off yet you're still an a55hole!
737

 

[Junkflyer]

It must be nice to work only 9 months a year.

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Anyone that would work at Kalitta is definately a whore!

Hell, CHQ are the biggest whores out there!