1261 days to go!

[Quimby]

OK what am I missing here? What happens in 1200 days? The age 65 law will still be around, right? The only difference I see is there will be a new group of over 60's to take the place of the current group. I seriously doubt that in 1200 days, every pilot 60 or older is going to retire. You will, of course move up a few senority numbers when the 65 group leaves, but there will still be a lot of over 60's around. This will go on forever (unless the law changes back to age 60, which I doubt).

movement.

 

[Flopgut]

OK what am I missing here? What happens in 1200 days? The age 65 law will still be around, right? The only difference I see is there will be a new group of over 60's to take the place of the current group. I seriously doubt that in 1200 days, every pilot 60 or older is going to retire. You will, of course move up a few senority numbers when the 65 group leaves, but there will still be a lot of over 60's around. This will go on forever (unless the law changes back to age 60, which I doubt).

There will be a great deal of movement. Age 60 was young enough that a large number of airline pilot retirees could go on to work longer as pilots. Age 65 changes things. In 1200 days the retired pilots will stay retired whether they want to or not. Additionally, the pilots who missed the cutoff for 65 and are currently working will be long gone. Consider that new pilots aren't in the pipeline....three years from now things might get interesting.

What we have to be guarded against is another backstab from the current old guys.

* Also, it shouldn't take another 1200 days. Most of these guys should not have to work up to the last second. There will be a window in the last 6-12 months where they start to bail out. Only ones hanging on to the last instant are the ones with more than three exes, or even bigger problems?!

 

[GuppyWN]

The rule should be tied to social security age. Period.

The greedy bastards who already had an entire career stay and ************************* the furloughed guys who are trying to get a start.

Gup

 

[The Prussian]

1252!!

 

[20sx]

I'm not sure about the last 6-12 months generating movement. There are still furloughes that have to get called back first. Not that that will take long, it just provides a slight delay.

 

[Flopgut]

I'm not sure about the last 6-12 months generating movement. There are still furloughes that have to get called back first. Not that that will take long, it just provides a slight delay.

Well, I know...perhaps a stretch. I can see that in my own finances and those of pilots I've tried to emulate, retirement age never really was 60 (or now 65), you know where you stand about a year out. I think there will be a "funeral" factor as these guys see their coworkers' retirement flight party be closely follwed by a short ride in a hearse.

 

[fullsail]

As I was getting furloughed again most over 60 guys told me "62 and I'm out." Pretty hard to believe that now. I heard a lot about lost pensions, multiple wives, alimony, new family at 57yrs old, new house to pay for etc. from them. Only one even bothered to ask what I was going to do. It was understood that their financial situation was far more important than my unemployment situation.

 

[iflyhigh]

For the furloughed pilots, and I am one, age 65 took away 3.5 years of earnings at the our respective carriers. Working an additional 5 years, can not replace these wages.

I am one of the lucky ones, I now have a secure job, making 50% less, but it will increase.

The baby boomers can cry all they want. They will never to come to accept that they have screwed the bottom pilots and some of their children who became pilots.

Who well, they got theirs.

 

[DOVPILOT]

So about 300 more days till some SWA pilot's grumble about 65 being unfair and a push for 70 starts. Lifevests and depends will soon be stored under the left seat.

I think Hoot Gibson tried that to no avail.

 

[Quimby]

bump...

 

[Whataburger]

1250!

 

[Whataburger]

1249!

It's ON!

 

[elguapo9]

As I was getting furloughed again most over 60 guys told me "62 and I'm out." Pretty hard to believe that now. I heard a lot about lost pensions, multiple wives, alimony, new family at 57yrs old, new house to pay for etc. from them. Only one even bothered to ask what I was going to do. It was understood that their financial situation was far more important than my unemployment situation.

Tell me about it, I flew for about 2 months all the while knowing I was getting furloughed. I had only one guy express any interest in what was going to happen to me. This was only after I dropped this nugget 'Yeah, and my wife is 4 months pregnant'.

Most guys were more interested in showing pictures of their new bass boat.

Got a crappy non-flying job now that pays 20% more. And a beautiful little 4 month old girl that I get to see every night.

 

[Whataburger]

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[Quimby]

Tell me about it, I flew for about 2 months all the while knowing I was getting furloughed. I had only one guy express any interest in what was going to happen to me. This was only after I dropped this nugget 'Yeah, and my wife is 4 months pregnant'.

Most guys were more interested in showing pictures of their new bass boat.

Got a crappy non-flying job now that pays 20% more. And a beautiful little 4 month old girl that I get to see every night.

Gotta love picture time......boats, cars, houses, airplanes, motorcycles. Although I've noticed more are switching from bringing pics to showing them on their iPhones, etc.