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  1. SilverSurfer

    Good job FLOPS management! Were number #1

    Management didn this where they could get away with it, to keep these pilots from having their medical LOA's extended via the contract. Its that simple.
  2. SilverSurfer

    To all members in good standing of IBT Local 1108 that frequent Flightinfo.com:

    OK no agenda here, just want to make sure that I know what the contract really gains us. So take a look at these numbers and tell me what you think. Oh and the 7 year thing, it's 5 years for the contract, and it will be a 5 year contract, plus the 2 years that it will take to negotiate a...
  3. SilverSurfer

    To all members in good standing of IBT Local 1108 that frequent Flightinfo.com:

    Removed to do more research
  4. SilverSurfer

    An appeal for Solidarity

    Amen bro I have been saying that for years. All it takes is simple selecting of ignore on the guy.
  5. SilverSurfer

    To all members in good standing of IBT Local 1108 that frequent Flightinfo.com:

    Could not have said it better my self. The net pay we will see over the cycle of this contract is less then CPI. And don't count on getting anything from the SSP as defined in the TA. The company will have to reach activity levels of 2006 & 2007 before we see a cent from SSP. Please look at...
  7. SilverSurfer

    To all members in good standing of IBT Local 1108 that frequent Flightinfo.com:

    Ignore works amazingly well
  8. SilverSurfer

    To all members in good standing of IBT Local 1108 that frequent Flightinfo.com:

    F@cking B19 It's amazing how you guys let this Sh!t for brains hijack threads no mater how important the subject.
  9. SilverSurfer

    Flops pay vs. the economy excuse

    Ok follow me here. We have a 3 year contract. There is a provision for management to extend the contract up to 2 years at their discretion as long as they do it 181 days or more from the term of the contract. They will do this, and it is probable that this was a management requirement for a...
  10. SilverSurfer

    Flops pay vs. the economy excuse

    Hey bro the SSP has a benchmark based on 2006 & 2007 company activity. Any one that thinks we will ever receive a cent form this is fooling themselves. The SSP is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
  11. SilverSurfer

    Flops pay vs. the economy excuse

    Life under the current TA Make no mistake that this Contract will be a total of probably 7 or more years. Think About it
  13. SilverSurfer

    Flops pay vs. the economy excuse

    The problem with your thinking is that the FlyRight program was unilaterally created, put into play, and managed without any say by us. We are not privy to any of the numbers that go into calculating "boneus" we ger and who gets it. This is a contract, that do not fool yourself, is a 5 year...
  14. SilverSurfer

    Flight options new pay

    Migs One MIGS to another......AMEN:beer:
  15. SilverSurfer

    Flops TA

    The leadership post on here all the time. There is no reason that the questions being asked here can not be answerers by said leadership. As stated by me and others, if you are not singing their tune you get hammered by the leadership and their boys.
  16. SilverSurfer

    Flops pay vs. the economy excuse

    Do the math We need someone that has good math skills to decipher this formula. CR=(FO*FOhrs+FF*FFhrs+JP*JPhrs)/SUM(FOhrs,FFhrs,JPhrs)+(MF*(FOhrs+FFhrs))/SUM(FOhrs,FFhrs,JPhrs)
  17. SilverSurfer

    Flight options new pay

    The rest of the story 30.3 The Company may exercise a unilateral option to extend the Agreement by 12 months by providing the Union written notice on or before the 185th day prior to three years after [date of ratification], 2013. If the Company exercises the option referred to in this...
  19. SilverSurfer

    Flight options new pay

    Hey Capt, do you think that management has a copy of the contract? I do!!!:) As far as management knowing that there are a lot of pilots that are having second thoughts about this TA it's a good thing. Not many hard questions are being asked on the unoin board because thoughtful decent is not...
  20. SilverSurfer

    Flight options new pay

    Well I operate on the trust but verify principal and I never believe it's in the mail when I'm told it is. Until I know how these numbers you and a few others, who I assume are also P2P sense the numbers are the same, were derived, I just can't blindly accept them. In the NJ contract all was...
  21. SilverSurfer

    Flops TA

    By no means's is that what I'm saying. We need a contract for all the same reasons we needed it in the first place. I just mean that we will most likely not suffer the same crap we did under Sh!tfinger. Dude you are a P2P member and have been charged with selling the TA to the pilots. I have...
  22. SilverSurfer

    Flight options new pay

    ITFL I am keeping an open mind about it and you are right there are many good things about this TA. Thats not the question, the question is if the TA as a whole is a good thing. This has to be judged free of fear about what will happen if it is not ratified. It either is good as a whole or...
  23. SilverSurfer

    Flops TA

    Well before you say NO take the time to read it and know what you are saying no to. I will have a verbatim read on it by tonight, and have lots of questions.
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