Flexjet, pilots...

[el raton]

Are we getting screwed?

 

[slowtation capt]

http://m.aviationweek.com/nbaa2014/flexjet-flight-options-realign

In the words of TWA, your guys answer to our guys, didn't any tell you. Just ask them, did you ask them. Bet Deanna isn't saying much on Yammer these days.

 

[The Architect]

Organize Now?

Are we getting screwed?

Good question.

The Employment Agreement is certainly not providing the protections of a Collective Bargaining Agreement under the RLA.

The Flexjet pilot group needs to consider whether organizing is in order. It appears that change is in the air.

The TMC pilot group reached out to Local 1108. This week the NMB accepted an application for investigation and a vote will follow. It only took a matter of weeks.

The Flexjet pilot group could be in the same situation by the years end.

 

[luckydog]

So you're saying that in the next 60+ days FJ crews could be in the same sinking ship as FO AND TMC.... things are worse than I thought!

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

^ Score 1 for management's legal team. Their goal is to make it appear the company is doomed, especially when employees unionize.

 

[AftCG182]

So you're saying that in the next 60+ days FJ crews could be in the same sinking ship as FO AND TMC.... things are worse than I thought!

Not sure how you consider TMC a sinking ship. I just went down with the sinking ship know as Avantair, so I know what a sinking ship feels like.

TMC's making money hand-over-fist... Not sure TMC qualifies as a sinking ship!

 

[Praetorian]

Flex Guys,

Did something happen recently with your 401k? A bird told me its not included in your benefits package for next year.

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

Flex Guys,

Did something happen recently with your 401k? A bird told me its not included in your benefits package for next year.

The whole benefits package isn't complete. Namely, the 401k match. They said it's under review.

 

[luckydog]

Not sure how you consider TMC a sinking ship. I just went down with the sinking ship know as Avantair, so I know what a sinking ship feels like.

TMC's making money hand-over-fist... Not sure TMC qualifies as a sinking ship!

I wasn't really referring to the companies.

 

[dime line]

The whole benefits package isn't complete. Namely, the 401k match. They said it's under review.

I'm assuming your "under review" comment, means.......the pilot group will be "Reviewing" the 401k match. Ah ok I got it.

 

[shanes123]

Yep just like there committee that reviewed the uniform change. We need to get rid of this union. This binding contract really sucks.

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

I'm assuming your "under review" comment, means.......the pilot group will be "Reviewing" the 401k match. Ah ok I got it.

Uh...no. The culture here has changed, as you guys (Flight Options) said it would. The old Flexjet is gone. The moral here has taken a dump. The focus groups and committees don't mean anything. I can tell you that there is a lot of chatter going on here at FJ....

 

[dime line]

Uh...no. The culture here has changed, as you guys (Flight Options) said it would. The old Flexjet is gone. The moral here has taken a dump. The focus groups and committees don't mean anything. I can tell you that there is a lot of chatter going on here at FJ....

Figured........I'm really sorry to hear this!!! Yup we had the committees at the RTA/FLOPS merger as well, and they didn't do much (not for not trying)

 

[jetwash]

You have to wonder that if he won't take your input on something like uniform colors, what does he have in store for more important issues like schedule, vacations, benefits etc.....

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Flex Guys,

Did something happen recently with your 401k? A bird told me its not included in your benefits package for next year.

That bird must not know what is going on.

Under our benefit descriptions for next year on ADP it shows a 100% match on the first 6%. Same as last year.

Can't wait to meet your first group of pilots that start here Monday.

Funny, after the Gulfstream announcement all of the people that wanted to come here only to be a dedicated crew changes their minds and said they would take anything. Specifically whatever got them on the FJ list the fastest.