UsAirways E190 Upgrades

[TWA Dude]

The APA has no DFR regarding the SLI to any USAir pilots.

Do you really not understand what happens after the NMB rules? Only one union can represent a pilot group. Who do you think it'll be after USAPA?

 

[PCL_128]

Do you really not understand what happens after the NMB rules? Only one union can represent a pilot group. Who do you think it'll be after USAPA?

Turtle isn't that bright. Just smile and nod at him.

 

[DCAA320]

I have one.. Metro, I don't believe I chose anything. My union at the time as well as my management pretty much did all the work, which was nothing.. But, I make the best of it that I can.. flew 50hrs for May, paid 77. Enjoying the extra time with the family until I claim my rightful place on the combined list.

You're a freakin fool.. Ever read the TA, moron?

You quote Turtle21, but start talking to Metro. What's your degree in, basket weaving? Too slow to figure out how to post two quotes are we? See, two stupid post by you.

I am now calling you the stupid boy with a degree with too much time at home making more stupid babies, great!

 

[zasca]

I'm probably wrong, but if APA is the one in danger of DFR suit by the West why don't they make a nicolau presentation to the arbitrators on their behalf when the time comes. We all know what the East would like to present to them. It's up to the arbitrators to choose the valid argument.... Why does it matter if this is settled now, delaying the whole process??

 

[TWA Dude]

I'm probably wrong, but if APA is the one in danger of DFR suit by the West why don't they make a nicolau presentation to the arbitrators on their behalf when the time comes

We won't know exactly what they plan to do until the time comes. The APA has already made it known through their legal filings that they intend to allow the West separate representation through the arbitration process. Once the NMB rules and the 30 day waiting period ends APA takes over the process and the East will be free to privately collect money to launch an unsuccessful lawsuit.

Like the rest of us, APA is just waiting for the NMB so USAPA can die.

 

[waveflyer]

Would you have been in favor of arbitration Wave, or would you have thrown out your union to avoid the outcome? It's easy to throw stones from the outside looking in.

I'd have been in favor of arbitration. Then honoring that award and MOVING ON. PROLONGED CONFLICT DOES NOT BENEFIT ANYONE BUT LAWYERS AND DP.

Clear enough?

I definitely wouldn't have avoided the outcome while sitting on the worst contract in major airline history, but to be consistent and clear- I wouldn't have voted for prolonged conflict regardless.

 

[Guppiedriver]

Please explain how every East Pilot gained seniority with the Nic?
And please be as specific as you can by using real data and math - not just spurting an opinion.

Metrojet

Relative seniority!

It's not an opinion. The data presented to both sides after Nicolau rendered his decision. It showed your pre-merger seniority by number and percentage and your Nicolau seniority by number and percentage. I don't think I have a copy of the list, but I'll look.

If you were a senior eastie, you made out like a bandit. The mid seniority easties did pretty good, and the bottom dwellers gained almost nothing. It was completely the opposite on the west. Senior guys got hammered, middle guys lost a little less, and junior guys made out pretty good.

 

[ERfly]

junior guys made out pretty good.

Like the founders of Leonidas?

 

[Guppiedriver]

Guppiediver, I have been told that the West has more pilots without a four-year degree than any other carrier. Do you have any data on that?

I have never been told that. If it turns out to be true, what will that mean to me?

Maybe you can clear something up for me. I have been told that the easties have crashed more airplanes than any other carrier. Do you have any data on that? As a matter of fact, I heard that your side has bent or shot about a dozen airframes since our merger.

 

[DCAA320]

Not that the East had/has a gazillion wide bodies but you boys had/have none.

DCA was conceding the fact that we do not have a gazillion wide bodies, while stating the obvious, that we do have wide bodies. He anticipated your objection that though we do have wide bodies, we do not have a gazillion.

Guppiediver, I have been told that the West has more pilots without a four-year degree than any other carrier. Do you have any data on that?

A gazillion wide bodies? LOL! You brought ~ two dozen wide bodies to the merger and you were credited with the first 517 spots on the seniority list.

I am sorry I confused you guppie, maybe you should take some online remedial reading comprehension classes to occupy your time on your overnights. You and monkey boy can ask for a 2 for 1 special.

 

[JumpersAway]

Mainline? How precious, Kitten. Your knees heal up yet, or are they still sore? Us Airways is hardly mainline. But keep telling yourself that to make up for your inadequacies!

Wow.........you clearly think the interview at Delta is the golden standard for all interviews, at all carriers. I think your time with Leo Mullins has left you with deep emotional scars. You should probably seek therapy for that.

 

[Turtle21]

Turtle isn't that bright. Just smile and nod at him.

With an avatar like you have...

 

[Turtle21]

The APA has no DFR regarding the SLI to any USAir pilots.

Do you really not understand what happens after the NMB rules? Only one union can represent a pilot group. Who do you think it'll be after USAPA?

Do you understand the difference between present tense and future tense?

And regarding your predictions about the future... well, you have been wrong for at least six or seven years, and we may have to wait at least that long to see if you are correct this time.

 

[TWA Dude]

Do you understand the difference between present tense and future tense?

Might wanna re-read the post you responded to before mouthing off here.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Yeah - it's bad over here on the East. Tell us how it is on your island in the desert, that you guys chose to build.

Metrojet

I'd be more interested to hear why you ginned up the Frank Lorenzo of unions and why your little cabal felt too threatened by the Nic to share the benefits of the merger with the west.

All the boasting of block holding and new hires doesn't go too far with the rest of the industry who were held down by LOA93 as the Market Rate when they were negotiating their contracts.

Please go on to explain how trade unionism was helped by a self-serving faction that ironically couldn't help themselves and had to be saved by the adults at the APA. Does Frank Lorenzo get paid by USAPA to take the new hires out to lunch and convince them its in their best interest to continue fighting the west?

 

[Turtle21]

Might wanna re-read the post you responded to before mouthing off here.

The APA has no DFR to any USAir pilot with regard to SLI. They do not.

Before Ferggie sells more ties under the assumption about the APA shouldering an SLI DFR to USAir pilots, you should do some homework.

The West failed to do their homework before they spent $2Million plus based on an implicit assumption that USAPA had breached its DFR.... DFR on the Merits = Fail.... The West should be extra careful before they implicitly assume the same failed legal team can accurately assess that APA even has any SLI DFR to any USAir pilot.

 

[TWA Dude]

The APA has no DFR to any USAir pilot with regard to SLI.

I can't tell if you're just baiting me or if you really are as profoundly confused as you sound. Either way you don't deserve a response.

 

[Turtle21]

I can't tell if you're just baiting me or if you really are as profoundly confused as you sound. Either way you don't deserve a response.

No need to persuade me. You can talk to me for free. A court not so much.

P.S. You responded.

 

[Guppiedriver]

I can't tell if you're just baiting me or if you really are as profoundly confused as you sound. Either way you don't deserve a response.

He's not baiting you, he's just that thick.

 

[dollacrackho]

Im guessing it's a small number of westies that are the epitome of unprofessionalism with this leaving windows open and other shenanigans. I can't wait til you're found and fired on the spot . I wish I could be there to laugh at your stupid as s . at least you'll have that expensive tie . maybe you can sell it to another moron that wants two of them. I think criminal action should also be pursued as this obviously sabotage and interfering with an air crew. Maybe you'll get some jail time too! That would be an added bonus. Keep it up genius. You should be so proud of yourselves. So noble of you .