HAL hiring

[waveflyer]

Believe me GL, there's plenty of heartburn on our side that this didn't go to arbi too

 

[redflyer65]

How senior are you red?

If rather GK just buy airplanes and hire at the bottom than another overly dramatic SLI.

Oh I get it Wave. I'm fairly junior so I would prefer organic growth. Just like before we bought AirTran. Hell, they could fence all of Hawaiian off for ten years and I'd sign off on that. It would bring in more revenue and fit nicely with the SW system.

I'm just being pragmatic. I'm not sure Hawaiian or Alaska make it as stand alones in 10 years (not saying that couldn't financially). It's just the industry consolidation. Both niche carriers somewhat like Dan stated, but that STILL doesn't mean they won't be bought/merged. Again, not my first choice but you still have to have your eyes wide open.

RF

 

[texarkana]

808pilot, thanks for the reply. however they change the interview process, hopefully it can all be done in one session so guys like me working abroad can give it a shot.

sorry i started such a melee about a merger!

 

[waveflyer]

You didn't txk, I did- just being a troll my man- hope you did find all the answers you needed before I hijacked it

 

[Dan Roman]

Yea your right. I know the 737 MAX numbers are better than the neo. But its like top secret stuff around SWA these days. No clue when or if we will ever do HA.

Actually the max numbers were surprisingly worse than than the NEO. They had a bunch of city pairs listed in the company presentation to the pilot group and what each airplane could carry. There were city pairs that the max had to block quite a few seats when the NEO was able to go full. The Max is not a very good transpac airplane.

 

[Dan Roman]

Jim,

I agree with everything you say, but, if you guys were to merge somehow, would SWAPA allow arbitration? They may agree to it in the beginning, but Herb might come out of retirement and try to scare the heck out of you guys. Sound familiar? I wonder if that could ever happen in real life? Hmmmmm. I hope you guys NEVER have to do that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Highly unlikely General, but for sure it would go to arbitration. "Gary's" little threat to AirTran about operating as separate airline would be fine with us. He couldn't pit one group against the other as SWA doesn't have any Airbus/ 767/717 pilots to replace us. If they did try to scab us (I'M NOT SAYING SWAPA WOULD DO THAT!) they would 't be very safe in Hawaii anyway.

 

[Dan Roman]

Oh I get it Wave. I'm fairly junior so I would prefer organic growth. Just like before we bought AirTran. Hell, they could fence all of Hawaiian off for ten years and I'd sign off on that. It would bring in more revenue and fit nicely with the SW system.

I'm just being pragmatic. I'm not sure Hawaiian or Alaska make it as stand alones in 10 years (not saying that couldn't financially). It's just the industry consolidation. Both niche carriers somewhat like Dan stated, but that STILL doesn't mean they won't be bought/merged. Again, not my first choice but you still have to have your eyes wide open.

RF

Actually it doesn't fit nicely with the SWA system. HA is a hub in HNL that has a lot of AM west coast departures. They connect with very little of the SWA system. The largest source of our revenue is Intl. None of that fit's into SWA and it's a completely different type of market.

 

[Ainokea]

Nice Jim! LOL

Nope. More like this....

 

[texman]

Actually the max numbers were surprisingly worse than than the NEO. They had a bunch of city pairs listed in the company presentation to the pilot group and what each airplane could carry. There were city pairs that the max had to block quite a few seats when the NEO was able to go full. The Max is not a very good transpac airplane.

I must of read Boeing's report wrong. Oh well I no clue what SWA is going to do in the long run with Hawaii.

 

[texman]

Believe me GL, there's plenty of heartburn on our side that this didn't go to arbi too

Hence the fact the next one will.