FlexJet / Flight Options / SkyJet

[slowtation capt]

I'm not sure why you guys want on Yammer so badly anyway?

We don't. Couldn't care less about a company facebook messenger. I have a Flops email address with everyone's email. If I want to know something or have a question, I will send an email, and I will get a response.

What we want is for you guys to admit that the excuse that they gave you about why we are unable to be on Yammer is completely, unequivocally, unmistakably, explicitly, and indisputably not true.

You guys say that you are tired of Union Pushers on FI.

What I am tired of, is Flex Management Pushers on FI.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Glad some of the rational pilots at FJ are starting to post. It's nice to see some posts that show that not everyone here feels the sky is falling.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it sure is nice that the silent majority seems to be breaking their silence.

 

[Praetorian]

I know you want me to say that we'll unionize when that happens. In our case, Kenn is extremely beholden to the investors who have BILLIONS riding on Flexjet's success. For once in his aviation career, he has a pretty content group of pilots who care about the success of their company and why on earth would he destroy that?

So no plan? Just counting on KR's beneficence and hoping for the best?

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

We don't. Couldn't care less about a company facebook messenger. I have a Flops email address with everyone's email. If I want to know something or have a question, I will send an email, and I will get a response.

What we want is for you guys to admit that the excuse that they gave you about why we are unable to be on Yammer is completely, unequivocally, unmistakably, explicitly, and indisputably not true.

You guys say that you are tired of Union Pushers on FI.

What I am tired of, is Flex Management Pushers on FI.

Wrong

You are tired of people who don't share the same views as you.

You can't stand it that there are FJ pilots that don't agree with you.

The only thing you guys seem to believe is that DW is a liar.

You keep bringing this up again and again and again and again........

You are trying to break our trust in management. DW was a replacement for bad management, FR. He was here for +/- 4 years and didn't do anything positive for FJ.

DW is a huge improvement over FR. She understands fractional aviation.

You guys are so quick to judge someone that you know nothing about. What did she do at FJ before she became president? How long has she worked at FJ?

I know you guys have had some bad leaders before, but you new boss is a good one. Don't judge her based on others actions.

 

[V1 Rotate]

So no plan? Just counting on KR's beneficence and hoping for the best?

How's your union plan of going from rags to riches working out? So yes, I guess you're right. I'd rather roll the dice on the status quo and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. But you'd never admit it if happened to you. I think this conversation has gotten to the point where you guys want us to fail just as much as we want you to succeed in achieving more. We're not going to convince each other otherwise so why not bury the hatchet and agree to disagree? The back and forth is getting very monotonous and is providing no meaningful dialogue.

 

[V1 Rotate]

We don't. Couldn't care less about a company facebook messenger. I have a Flops email address with everyone's email. If I want to know something or have a question, I will send an email, and I will get a response.

What we want is for you guys to admit that the excuse that they gave you about why we are unable to be on Yammer is completely, unequivocally, unmistakably, explicitly, and indisputably not true.

You guys say that you are tired of Union Pushers on FI.

What I am tired of, is Flex Management Pushers on FI.

I'm anything but a Flexjet management pusher. Wanna know what I'm fired of? The demagoguery of the 1108 pushers. How about that? The name calling and the attempt to discredit anyone who has an opposing opinion. It's gotten beyond the point that you're looking out for us and trying to protect us from Kenn. You've made it obvious that you hope we fall flat on our faces. Maybe not Flexjet as a whole, but at a minimum those of us that have opposing opinions.

 

[Club ORD FO]

I know you guys have had some bad leaders before, but you new boss is a good one. Don't judge her based on others actions.

Technically she is not their boss. She's the CEO (sorta) of flexjet but the head of finance for options. That right? And there is an options guy, I don't know his name, who is the CEO of options and in charge of "strategy" for Flexjet. I dunno, it seems overly complicated. JW on the other hand has the same title across both companies.

But regardless I do like her. She actually remembered my first name when I saw her a second time. She made a real effort to get to know her employees and had some good ideas when she took over.

 

[jetwash]

We don't. Couldn't care less about a company facebook messenger. I have a Flops email address with everyone's email.

So it is a Facebook site where you and your Frat buddies can get drunk and chat with your Granny and mom monitoring what you say.

Sounds fun, when do I get to join :laugh:

 

[V1 Rotate]

So it is a Facebook site where you and your Frat buddies can get drunk and chat with your Granny and mom monitoring what you say.

Sounds fun, when do I get to join :laugh:

It's ridiculousness like this is why you shouldn't be taken seriously. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Technically she is not their boss. She's the CEO (sorta) of flexjet but the head of finance for options. That right? And there is an options guy, I don't know his name, who is the CEO of options and in charge of "strategy" for Flexjet. I dunno, it seems overly complicated. JW on the other hand has the same title across both companies.

But regardless I do like her. She actually remembered my first name when I saw her a second time. She made a real effort to get to know her employees and had some good ideas when she took over.

I need to look again for the email announcement. I believe she was named president if the "closed fleet". That is FJ and FO.

I will search for the email and check.

Ok, found it.

March 3rd JW was named VP of operations for the closed fleet (FO and FJ). Operations, maintenance and flight operations now report directly to him. He replaced KS who is now with Constant Aviation.

JW reports to DW. Hence FO pilots report to their bosses who report to JW who reports to DW.

Any questions?

 

[BE40Driver]

All of Flightoptions manuals and employee guides show Silvestro as CEO of Flightoptions. I don't know how long the company has to make revisions when there is a management change. There has not been any official word as to changes of our management.

 

[Club ORD FO]

JW reports to DW. Hence FO pilots report to their bosses who report to JW who reports to DW.

Any questions?

Actually, yes. On the options side, wouldn't JW report to Silvestro?

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Actually, yes. On the options side, wouldn't JW report to Silvestro?

Nope.

 

[BE40Driver]

Flightoptions flow chart shows JW reports to JS reports to MS.

 

[Club ORD FO]

Nope.

The email I'm thinking of was the one from KR that announced DW staying on as CEO but with different responsibilities. I can't find so... maybe somebody else remembers the exact wording.