Endeavor can't fill a class!

[big shacks]

Those three, need to have their head examined.

 

[gojo]

Those three, need to have their head examined.

I remember all the Mesa bashing before, during, and after their bankruptcy. The vocal majority had them going out of business. Now look at them. I would think that some of the first new hires post bankruptcy are in a pretty good place right now.

 

[SoberIrishman]

The big difference is...Endeavor is now owned by Delta. Not a good thing. They can do whatever they want with them. I think we know where this will go eventually.

 

[gojo]

The big difference is...Endeavor is now owned by Delta. Not a good thing. They can do whatever they want with them. I think we know where this will go eventually.

How how exactly do you, much less we know where this will go? Do you have inside information, or are you just guessing like everyone else? There are many guesses and predictions out there. One of them may come true. But until then keep guessing

 

[jynxyjericho]

The big difference is...Endeavor is now owned by Delta. Not a good thing. They can do whatever they want with them. I think we know where this will go eventually.

Yeah, that's where we seem to be heading.

Got a question for the flightinfo brain trust. All opinions welcome.

One: Delta intends to make us a 900 only fleet of about 1000 pilots and 81 airplanes.
Since we still have 1950 pilots give or take, why hire anyone? Furthermore, the class size is 3, why dont you cancel class for lack of attendance? Classes arent free and you need the class space to transition pilots to the 900.
Delta says they will give us as many 200s as we can staff, and we cant staff and can't hire, so WHAT the hell are we doing?

Two: You cant force XJT & everyone else to take paycuts to keep airplanes or get new ones and use Endeavor as leverage. Every idiot knows we can't staff and Delta isn't trying to staff us up. Isn't a smart pilot group going to call Delta's bluff? This is silly isn't it?

I can't figure out the game plan because there is so much contradiction in the company's actions. Are they just running classes to keep up appearances?

I dont know. All seems like a funny way to run an airline. It seems like we are running in two different directions.

 

[701EV]

Rumor has it that Delta just gave 1600 hours of flying to ExpressJet because Endeavor can't cover the flying. ExpressJet is buying back vacations to cover the flying.

 

[big shacks]

******************** contract, no bonus, awful bases, and a diarrhea ssp deal with DL....Yeah that's why 3 showed up. Those 3 need medical attention!

 

[jynxyjericho]

Rumor has it that Delta just gave 1600 hours of flying to ExpressJet because Endover can't cover the flying. ExpressJet is buying back vacations to cover the flying.

From what we are told, that is correct.

 

[suupah]

Failed experiment delta. You went too far suckers

 

[jynxyjericho]

Failed experiment delta. You went too far suckers

That is my impression, so do they dump us now? Can't sell us... cant staff without dumping more money into us, but you lose competitive advantage against the other regions, and if you do, you can't whipsaw.

Seems like lose-lose for Delta's managment and their superiority complex. That's too simple though, can't figure out what pieces I'm missing.

 

[suupah]

That is my impression, so do they dump us now? Can't sell us... cant staff without dumping more money into us, but you lose competitive advantage against the other regions, and if you do, you can't whipsaw.

Seems like lose-lose for Delta's managment and their superiority complex. That's too simple though, can't figure out what pieces I'm missing.

G-d forbid they dip into their 8 billion dollar profit to pay a live able wage for the regional FO. Every time I see RA talk about values I want to puke

 

[jynxyjericho]

G-d forbid they dip into their 8 billion dollar profit to pay a live able wage for the regional FO. Every time I see RA talk about values I want to puke

They don't care about values. When you do something horribly, like customer service, just claim you've always done it great and ignore your past. It's Orwellian double-think. You just have to make sure you fix the problem, and move forward. Delta has done that, their customer service has improved.

That's sales man, you run a company and all the employees hard to make a profit- including stabbing them in the chest- and fix problems that cost you money. If the problem doesn't cost you, don't worry.

It's weird for us employees, but until pilots being treated like crap and being paid crap costs them more money than doing the same thing year after year, nothing will change. Even after it does there still won't be a pension .

 

[Freebrd]

That is my impression, so do they dump us now? Can't sell us... QUOTE]

Hey maybe JA will buy ya off DAL's hand. He bought Xjt didn't he?

 

[A-10_JetMech]

They don't care about values. When you do something horribly, like customer service, just claim you've always done it great and ignore your past. It's Orwellian double-think. You just have to make sure you fix the problem, and move forward. Delta has done that, their customer service has improved.

That's sales man, you run a company and all the employees hard to make a profit- including stabbing them in the chest- and fix problems that cost you money. If the problem doesn't cost you, don't worry.

It's weird for us employees, but until pilots being treated like crap and being paid crap costs them more money than doing the same thing year after year, nothing will change. Even after it does there still won't be a pension .

Yup. No back stabbing going on here. They will walk up and stab you in the chest (with a smile of course).

 

[jynxyjericho]

Yup. No back stabbing going on here. They will walk up and stab you in the chest (with a smile of course).

"Thanks for all you do!"

Our high management has programmed everyone underneath them to end every communication with the above, for those wondering what we are going on about.